This is only a temporary fill for what I'm currently working on. While I'm doing this, I strongly encourage you take a look at the "Related Testament" tab. Look at the "reinterpreted" vesersions of Paul, James, Hebrews, and eventually Revelation. The thought is that Philo of Alexandria and Apollos of the same region (Egypt), were on a different theological level than that of most other Hebrews in Israel. The encouragement of their perspectives was from the mixture of Egyptian and Hellenestic intellectual tools.

Their strong views heavely influenced the writings of Paul. We also have, going further back, the strong influence of Plato in establishing the theology of Philo. All of these things are working together to come up with a different narrative that was altered by verses such as Hebrews 4:8 during "transliterations" of understanding. I understand that removing the word Jesus from these books will prevent some people from viewing them, but we can keep our beliefs and still open our minds to possibilities.

The primary reason that some words were removed or altered is to set a background for what was theoretically said. I find the best evidence of what they origianlly said lies much closer in reading them as they are viewed. From this perspective we can see how the Scripture flows in regard to the over all subject and if that makes more or less sense to the intent of the character and meaning of the author.

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On October 27th, 2023, I began receiving signs and a continuous physical anointing to seemingly fulfill a task. The Holy Spirit immediately guided me to read all of Isaiah, Ezekiel, Jeremiah, Micah, Malachi, Hosea, Psalm, Revelation, but specifically Isaiah, Ezekiel, and Psalm. There it was revealed to me that those books were about prophesy, and that there was another Messiah. In addition to that and after the readings, the Spirit guided me to communicate to some aristocrats via Microsoft Start about the conditions to prelude the Abomination of Desolation moment, which appeared to be my first task, and is mentioned in "Evidence of Current Times" article. The task and initial readings were from seven to ten days, after that, no other task has been assigned to me.

I was guided in replying to the short posts and articles in such a way that I noticed that I was getting indirect responses. Then I would respond to the responses and get another response. This kept going on until I came to a place where we were discussing the issue of young people disrespecting their parents and how the effect was trickling all the way down to pre-teens disrespecting teens. These posts were recorded, but "they" removed some of the discussions, particuraly where there were topics in regard to disprespecting the forum or about the Biblical conversations. I informed "them" that we needed to reverse course. In another discussion, we were speaking about the preparation for the years to live in harmony, without directly speaking of it in that regard.

I just happened to have had experience with a great company when I was young and mentioned the Peter F. Drucker model to put resources back into the base so that we were not sucking the "floor" dry and devaluing our work force. Obviously, we need a strong work force for a strong economy. This textual conversation happened over the same duration of ten days, and I read a great amount of scripture. I was saturated with the zeal of the Spirit. When it ended they replied to my Peter F. Drucker model, and "they" mentioned an oak tree. Which of course is from a reference from Moses's servant Joshua from the Book of Joshua chapter 24. I politely said that I liked the reference to the oak tree and that "it was not just any tree, but an oak tree." (ISV) Joshua 24:25-27,

"So Joshua made a covenant with the people that day, making statutes and ordinances in Shechem. He wrote these words in the Book of the Law of God, took a large stone, moved it under the shade of the oak tree that was near the sanctuary of the Lord, and then told all of the people, “Look! This stone will testify for us, because it has heard everything that the Lord has spoken to us. So it will stand as a witness against you in the event that you deny your God"."

The productive "message" was exchanged about the culture in our society having a deteriorating social structure that needed to be corrected, and there is evidence of that change. There have been many other changes since then that appear to be very negative. There is a plan, but nobody knows exactly what it is or exactly how it is unfolding. There isn't a guarantee that this is about the Abomination of Desolation moment either, but much of this is motivated by what was spoken about in Ezekiel concerning the "abominations" and the speaking through the "wall."

My assumption was that I was speaking with evil (intentional knowledge of being) people, but the commonality was there in regard to their respect for the existence of God. Since then, I have felt compelled to share the interpretation of the Word from the spiritual anointing that I'm currently receiving as of , and this unique perspective that comes with this Spiritual presence. What the Holy Spirit shared with me in those first few days of reading the Bible was incredible.

So far, I have not found a single Church that completely aligns with the way that I have been reading or interpreting the Word. Also, there appears to be fissures in regard to the role of the earthly churches as mentioned in Revelation 2 and 3. The two faiths, Judaism and Christianity, are not "meeting in the middle." They are both wrong and both correct. Each side has half the truth.

I may not be a Jew, but I would know absolutely nothing without the Ancient Scriptures. Perhaps the most important point being that I am a Judain Christian, but I will still use critical theory, alternative text, critical thinking, and a combination of anything else to seek and find the ultimate truth.

Very interestingly though what does align, are some of the books that were removed from the Bible known as the Apocrypha. The truth will not be known unless it is spoken truthfully, but the Apocrypha Books if read, such as: the Book of Enoch, the Wisdom of Solomon, and Ezra/Esdra should be enough to legitimize the thought before it becomes knowledge. There is even something to learn from the Gospel of Mary, because it reads as a type of transition document while new ideas were being exchanged.

I have found that critical text theory to be extremely useful in this regard such as looking at the original scriptures from the Codex Sinaiticus, reading the Dead Sea Scrolls, and examining books that were removed from the Bible (Apocrypha). Realizing that there are perspectives of the Word that can have many dimensions of meanings, it is easier to see that we should be putting much more emphasis on the deep meanings of books, the intertwining’s of books or their commonalities, and chapters, rather than emphasizing single verses lest those verses stand alone.

Also, we may have to "unlearn" some things or assumptions that we had or were taught in order to begin seeing these other perspectives. Some assumptions can be incorrect and cause us to interpret other parts of Scripture around those incorrect beliefs. We also need to take a look at the writings of Plato, Apollo, and Philo to get a better background of the origins of changes.

Some arguments such as who represents the Branch of righteousness, the Branch of Jesse, or the assumption that Mary is strictly of the line of David, can lead us down rabbit holes. For example, in regard to the lineages, we go through this circular debate whether or not Mary is from the tribe of David to prove that Jesus is the one and only Messiah.

If someone says to me such and such but says I'm not totally sure, that is fine, but if someone says such and such and is sure of it, that is a red flag. My knowledge is attached to a string of the never ending quest to find the truth. If at any point I stop doing that, I can't assume that I know anything. If one says they know everything, they have a closed mind, and a closed mind can't learn.

Nobody knows for 100% sure what the Bible is telling us. That is kind of like saying that we don't need the Holy Spirit when reading it. The first thing that we do is react as if in defense of these principles learned, but this only validates the point. The point that there are assumptions that influence what we believe and share with others, even to the point of feeling personally attacked for even being slightly challenged.

What if that same zeal was to accept the things that we don't know, so that we could open doors that we didn't know existed. To admit that we don't know everything about what the Bible is telling us, isn't a weakness, it's a strength. I can see how some people might look at the challenge as an attack on their faith, kind a test, but if we can't handle a test then how strong is our faith.

I can muster a little bit more faith in what I know because of the strong presence of the Holy Spirit, but do I know what the Holy Spirit is telling me, No!, but that is alright. I think that the presence is a form of communication, and something that I can actually understand.

I'm thinking that I'm still being prepared for something else, I just don't know what it is yet. So I keep working on this website. Now you know my motivation for doing this. I'm doing this because of the physical presence of the Holy Spirit, and there is no way that I can prove that to you. Except by revealing what is not known and us getting that combined "aha" moment that I still get the more I learn.

Our faith is our Rock, not necessarily our knowledge, but if I have to use knowledge to disprove assumptions (Logos), then certainly one could call me biased in this regard. Some want to believe that Jesus is the son of David, because the unknown authors of Matthew and Luke says He is. They are not wrong in regard to there being another potential Messiah to come, but what is the evidence that He has came?

Whether what we know is true or not, the point is that we must keep an open mind to see those doors that we could not see before, or to have a better perspective of the doors that we are aware of. We can't force a non-believer to believe, but the question not answered is not the opposing answer, whatever that may be or look like.

The non-believer can't go "aha, I got you," if they themselves don't have a legitimate alternative answer, but they can if we tell them something that isn't true. Once in a while I'll hear a story online about a non-believer who asks a Christian a question that the Christian didn't expect or didn't have an answer for. What if we treat it just like any other question, "I never thought of that before. I don't have an answer right now, can I get back with you?" Can we get back with ourselves?

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Many of my articles are either archived or they are in the long process of being refurbished. This is actually a good thing. It does not mean that they are obsolete, it means that I am learning at such a rate, that many of my initial perspectives were incomplete, or it would be more productive to arranged arguments in a more efficient manner. You may still access them through the "Archives" tab above.

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In my walk, the Spirit is leading me in interpretation, "The Truth is the Word, not the truth that serves our selfish purposes that are driven by the fear of earthly things, but by the fear of God, and this Truth is our authority." Verses of contemplation before the reading.

2 Thessalonians 2:10-11, "and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie,"

Isaiah 28:9-11, "Whom will he teach knowledge? And whom will he make to understand the message? Those just weaned from milk? Those just drawn from the breasts? For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept, line upon line, line upon line, here a little, there a little. For with stammering lips and another tongue he will speak to this people,

1 Kings 18:21, "where Elijah approached all the people and asked them, “How long will you keep dancing between both sides? If the Lord is God, go after him. If Baal, go after him.”"

Jeremiah 23:28, "Let the prophet who has a dream tell his dream; but he who has My Word with him, let him speak My Word in truth. What is the straw to the wheat?

Isaiah 58:6-9, "Is this not the fast that I have chosen: To loose the bonds of wickedness To undo the heavy burdens To let the oppressed go free And that you break every yoke? Is it not to share your bread with the hungry And that you bring to your house the poor who are cast out; When you see the naked that you cover him And not hide yourself from your own flesh? Then your light shall break forth like the morning Your healing shall spring forth speedily And your righteousness shall go before you; The glory of the LORD shall be your rear guard."

Isaiah 58:12, "Those from among you Shall build the old waste places; You shall raise up the foundations of many generations; And you shall be called the Repairer of the Breach The Restorer of Streets to Dwell In."

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This is what it looks like for someone who has experienced this test from Revelation 2-3. Some interpet these chapters as referring to the Churches, then we create some analogies for how they relate. Although it is very much about the churches in regard to how the Almighty sees them in the present time, the solution to the Churches awakening is within this test.

God is administering this test for a specific person. Similarly, His faithful servant Antipas was lost while battling the church of Pergamum. Whose leaders were called the Nicolaitans and who got lost into the teachings of a Theocracy style Church. We can draw on present time, real life, negative consequences for Churches trying to administer themselves as the only authority given by God.

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Revelation 2:2, "‘I know what you’ve been doing, your toil, and your endurance. I also know that you cannot tolerate evil people. You have tested those who call themselves apostles, but are not, and have found them to be false."

This individual lives his life with a different perspective than most people. He can point out and see the flaws, but when he points them out, he gets crucified in the way of not being an "optimist." He can see the false teachers and other flaws in society.

Psalm 15:1-4, "Lord, who may stay in your tent? Who may dwell on your holy mountain? The one who lives with integrity, who does righteous deeds, and who speaks truth to himself. The one who does not slander with his tongue, who does no evil to his neighbor, and who does not destroy his friend’s reputation. The one who despises those who are utterly wicked, but who honors the one who fears the Lord, who keeps his word even when it hurts and does not change,"

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Revelation 2:3, "You have endured and suffered because of my name, yet you have not grown weary."

He has been persistent even when things did not go well for him, he endured in his faith to God.

Psalm 69:3-7, "I am exhausted from calling for help. My throat is parched. My eyes are strained from looking for God. Those who hate me without cause are more than the hairs of my head. My persecutors are mighty, and they want to destroy me. Must I be forced to return what I did not steal? God, you know my sins, and my guilt is not hidden from you. Do not let those who look up to you be ashamed because of me, Lord God of the Heavenly Armies. Let not those who seek you be humiliated because of me, God of Israel. I am being mocked because of you. Dishonor overwhelms me."

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Revelation 2:4, "However, I have this against you: You have abandoned the love you had at first."

He backslid many times not knowing that he was being tested. So even though he could see the flaws in society, he was still trying to live in that world, like them.

Isaiah 12:1, "And in that day you will say: “O Lord, I will praise You; Though You were angry with me, Your anger is turned away, and You comfort me."

Psalm 63:1-3, "God, you are my God! I will fervently seek you. My soul thirsts for you; my flesh longs for you in a dry, weary, and parched land. So I have looked for you in the sanctuary, to behold your power and glory. Because your gracious love is better than life itself, my lips will praise you."

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Revelation 2:5, "Therefore, remember how far you have fallen. Repent and go back to what you were doing at first. If you don’t, I will come to you and remove your lamp stand from its place—unless you repent."

First love of course is the love for God, and a warning for him to stop backsliding. This is also very interesting that He unknowingly has a lamp stand in his presence. This is very powerful, because remember the seven lamp stands? This means that he is representing a Church, in other words, being a Counselor for the Word of God.

Psalm 7:5, "Let the enemy pursue me and overtake me; Yes, let him trample my life to the earth, And lay my honor in the dust."

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Revelation 2:6, "But this is to your credit: You hate the actions of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate."

He keeps trying to do the right things even though he is not doing all of the right things for himself. He keeps persisting and trying to learn, Childlike. So, God is saying that He is watching him because of his "unique" ability to see past the hypocrisies of false teachers while still being able to maintain his Faith in God under his own perspective. Isaiah 53:11, "He shall see the labor of His soul, and be satisfied. By His knowledge My righteous Servant shall justify many, For He shall bear their iniquities."

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Revelation 2:7, "‘Let everyone listen to what the Spirit says to the churches. I will give the privilege of eating from the tree of life that is in God’s paradise to everyone who overcomes.’"

While this person is about to be tested, God has already put into the Bible the rewards of this test, and one of them will be an open door into the Kingdom of heaven, but for this person being tested, he is not aware of these awards yet. Isaiah 60:21, "Also your people shall all be righteous; They shall inherit the land forever, The branch of My planting, The work of My hands, That I may be glorified."

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Revelation 2:9, "‘I know your suffering and your poverty—though you are rich—and the slander committed by those who claim to be Jews but are not. They are the synagogue of Satan."

He has suffered because of a wrong choice that cascaded to a greater effect because of the Law being so static in judgement, but again he does not know that he is being tested. The cascade effect brought him to the point of causing poverty in his life in regard to both financial and social. Despite all this, he is still able to see the mistakes of society and the way that we treat each other, and he endures by faith in himself, which is his faith in God. Isaiah 53:9, "He was given a grave among the wicked; in his death he was with a rich man." This is saying that He is rich in Spirit or of faith. Many think that this means that he was literally (earthly) buried with the rich, he died spiritually with this test, so he was buried with the rich in Spirit! Isaiah 61:1, "“The Spirit of the Lord God is upon Me, Because the Lord has anointed Me To preach good tidings to the poor; He has sent Me to heal the brokenhearted, To proclaim liberty to the captives, And the opening of the prison to those who are bound;"

Psalm 11:1, "In the Lord I put my trust; How can you say to my soul, “Flee as a bird to your mountain”?" It was initially believed that the coming Hebrew Messiah takes on the curses of the Law to Himself. This person is being punished by the curse of the Law. People who were born before computers had become the mainstay, before the information age, and before all of the Laws that were recorded on paper were put into databases, became the guinea pigs for the changes that took place in the enforcement of the Law. Information that is in a government database about someone who broke the Law is public information! So, if it were a particularly bad Law that was broken, he was enduring the curse of the Law and interceding for those who were enduring legal challenges in a similar way. Once a law is recorded, it becomes its own definition of the truth. Hence, the curse of the Law and intercession for other people’s transgressions. The cross symbolizes the public punishment of someone, hence being "lifted up" onto the tree/cross. It also symbolizes a punishment so great that it causes a type of death, imagine being alive for 65 years and not wanting to live anymore, but you can't die because it's forbidden by God to take your own life. So just by living, he was doing the will of God!

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Revelation 2:10, "Don’t be afraid of what you are going to suffer. Look! The Devil is going to throw some of you into prison so that you may be tested. For ten days you will undergo suffering. Be faithful until death, and I will give you the victor’s crown of life."

One of the previous articles that I linked above actually speaks some of to this. That we, even the sinners, are under the constant protection of God. Otherwise, we would all be in some kind of spiritual prison, but at this point, he is still unaware that he is being tested and even unaware of these words in the Bible or of this very scripture. The mistakes that he made in life were from legal consequence, but the punishment didn't match the reality of his unwise actions, but it brings him to the point of abusing substances, losing everything, and then finally asking God for permission to die. So obviously he is a God-fearing person because he strongly feels the need to ask God to die. The ten days is literally ten earth days, and it is like being in hell and on earth at the same time. He began to experience things that others would not/could not believe even if he told them. The Devil is trying to torment him with relentless spiritual attacks, and he is isolated in the way that nobody would believe what is happening to him. Remember that this is also after he has lost everything that was of value to him on the earth. Isaiah 53:12, "Therefore I will divide Him a portion with the great, And He shall divide the spoil with the strong, Because He poured out His soul unto death, And He was numbered with the transgressors, And He bore the sin of many, And made intercession for the transgressors."

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Revelation 2:11, "‘Let everyone listen to what the Spirit says to the churches. The one who overcomes will never be hurt by the second death.’”

As the previous verse is talking about the "Crown of Life," and this verse is speaking of not being hurt by the second death, it is stating that if he overcomes the ten day test, that he will have eternal life and would not have to do anything else to earn his passage into heaven, and even have access to the Tree of Life. So, in these ten days of time, you have this person who is deplorable to others in his existing life, but yet being given these gifts upon passing the test. Isaiah 53:10, "Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise Him; He has put Him to grief. When You make His soul an offering for sin, He shall see His seed, He shall prolong His days, And the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in His hand."

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Revelation 2:13, "‘I know where you live. Satan’s throne is there. Yet you hold on to my name and have not denied your faith in me, even in the days of Antipas, my faithful witness, who was killed in your presence, where Satan lives."

Where he lives is his home; he is being tested from his house, but since he is also in the underworld, he is also in Hades. While he is being tested, he begins to go on the offense and actually pics up a Bible and begins to preach to the demons. While he is preaching to them, they are attempting to distract him so much for his peripheral vision that he is having a hard time concentrating and begins to cry.

Psalm 56:8, "You number my wanderings; Put my tears into Your bottle; Are they not in Your book?"

He moves from the Old Testament to the New Testament and gets to Matthew 7:22 where he sees the prophetic word. It says something like this, "He who casts out demons in your name, in your name, shall see many wonderous things."

Right then, he stops reading and says to himself, "In my name?" He looks up and the demons that were attacking him stopped and were all bundled together in what looked like a floating ball of particles. He put his hand through them, and he could feel the granular particles. Jesus mentions His faithful witness Antipas who was cooked alive in a bronze bull. Fortunately for this person, he had a Bible in the house and there weren't any bronze bulls around. What else is interesting here is that Jesus fought Satan with using the Word of God, right? As soon as he (the tested) asked himself the prophetic question, they stopped attacking him and then changed their tactics to trying to soothe him. It allowed for him to further move to the offense and tolerate the remainder of the test. So, see, even in hell, God is with us! Isaiah 53:8, "He was taken from prison and from judgment, And who will declare His generation? For He was cut off from the land of the living; For the transgressions of My people He was stricken."

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Revelation 2:14, "But I have a few things against you: You have there some who hold to the teaching of Balaam, the one who taught Balak to put a stumbling block before the people of Israel so that they would eat food sacrificed to idols and practice immorality."

I believe that this is in reference to the mistake that this person made, that was indirectly connected with a person who valued their beliefs in God. Even though his mistake was not of the level of the punishment he received, he was still very regretful for it. It is also most likely making a similar connection with Christian teachers who may or may not be regretful for misguiding their constituents. Ezekiel 2:14, " “Again, when a righteous man turns from his righteousness and commits iniquity, and I lay a stumbling block before him, he shall die; because you did not give him warning, he shall die in his sin, and his righteousness which he has done shall not be remembered; but his blood I will require at your hand."

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Revelation 2:15-16, "You also have some who hold to the teaching of the Nicolaitans. So repent. If you don’t, I will come to you quickly and wage war against them with the sword of my mouth."

He is clearly speaking over the person who is being tested and talking to the Churches. It could mean that God has already begun transitioning this person's new authority in that to say, that he needs to help steer them away from their actions. Isaiah 52:5, "Now therefore, what have I here,” says the Lord, “That My people are taken away for nothing? Those who rule over them Make them wail,” says the Lord, “And My name is blasphemed continually every day."

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Revelation 2:17, "‘Let everyone listen to what the Spirit says to the churches. I will give some of the hidden manna to everyone who overcomes.’” I will also give him a white stone. On the white stone is written a new name that no one knows except the person who receives it.’”

I believe that the hidden mana are spiritual gifts such as like being able to receive spiritual food like Jesus had when He was on the earth. The white stone is God's eternal forgiveness of any wrong doings and that He will forever forget the mistakes made in this person's past. He will remember them no more. The white stone also comes with a name. This name will be a special name or of one of many names, but the name is never revealed literally. There are references in the Bible that relate to this new name, but most Christians would contest that those names belong to Jesus alone. Isaiah 62:2, "The Gentiles shall see your righteousness, And all kings your glory. You shall be called by a new name, Which the mouth of the Lord will name."

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Revelation 2:19, "‘I know what you’ve been doing—your love, faithfulness, service, and endurance—and that your last actions are greater than the first."

This is repeating what God has seen in this person, that he is standing out from the rest, but he would at this point still not know what his greater, later actions are yet. Unless they be of the victory itself, building the highway of letting out the prisoners, and for other future actions not performed yet. The person who was for a second a stumbling block is now the Highway Constructor. Isaiah 57:14, "And one shall say, “Heap it up! Heap it up! Prepare the way, Take the stumbling block out of the way of My people.”"

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Revelation 2:20-23, "But I have this against you: You tolerate that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophet and who teaches and leads my servants to practice immorality and to eat food sacrificed to idols. I gave her time to repent, but she refused to repent of her immorality. Look! I am going to strike her with illness. Those who commit adultery with her will also suffer greatly, unless they repent from acting like her. I will strike her children dead. Then all the churches will know that I am the one who searches minds and hearts. I will reward each of you as your actions deserve."

This was an embarrassing mistake, his only defense is that it was prophesized that he would make this mistake shortly after his first test, but he was kind of tricked into thinking that he was doing something nice for someone, but she seduced him. Apparently this Jezebel person, resides in the underworld, and it was possible that during his days in living in both the earth and in hades that she presented herself from hades, but he thought that he was completely back to the earth. We can see the connection here through the misleading of the righteous, even newly tested ones, and idolization. While this person thought that he was helping someone out, she seduced him and it was very wierd thinking back on it in hindsight, because before that occurred she asked for wierd things like a dirty magazine and junk food, and some other "things" that didn't make much sense, because she never used them, but they were most likely required for the idolization part of whatever she was doing. 1 Corinthians 10:18-20, "Observe Israel after the flesh: Are not those who eat of the sacrifices partakers of the altar? What am I saying then? That an idol is anything, or what is offered to idols is anything?"

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Revelation 2:24, "“Now to you I say, and to the rest in Thyatira, as many as do not have this doctrine, who have not known the depths of Satan, as they say, I will put on you no other burden."

He is telling this person tested, that He won't test him anymore and will honor the gift of the Crown of Life. There is no other part anywhere in the Bible that is comparable to either this scripture or the giving of a white stone to a single person. What is even more interesting is that, I don't usually reference to the NKJV of the bible, but it is actually the most correct version of this verse. Many bibles try to take out the word "And" or a comma to make it appear to be about the Churches, but what is actually happening is that God is saying that most people have no comprehension of what this person had to suffer, such as the Churches, that is why he does not have be be burdoned any further and that he has received the white stone, which of course, is the stone of forgiveness which is the assurance that despite him being condemned under men's laws, he was perpetually forgiven by God. Look this is a combination of BlueLetterBible.org and google translate Revelation 2:24, "But to you I say to the rest of those in Thyateira who do not have this doctrine, who have not known the depths of Satan, as they say, I do not lay any other burden on you." That is very close to the NKJV. I will just refer back to Revelation 2:10 using the same technique, "do not fear what is to come you suffer , behold, the devil is coming to throw you into prison so that you will be tempted and have tribulation for ten days be faithful until death and I will give you the crown of life."

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Revelation 2:25, "Just hold on to what you have until I come."

A small warning to keep doing good and avoid evil, despite receiving the gift of eternal life of the body and Spirit. 1 Thessalonians 5:19-22, "Do not quench the Spirit. Do not despise prophecies. Test all things; hold fast what is good. Abstain from every form of evil."

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Revelation 2:26, "I will give authority over the nations to the person who overcomes and continues to do what I’ve commanded to the end, and"

Now this is where things really start to get interesting. He is stating that the person who passes this test not only receives the Crown of Life, but that he will be given authority over the nations! but pay attention to the last part of the sentence, God is implying that there will be more instructions to come. Psalm 2:8, "Ask of Me, and I will give You The nations for Your inheritance, And the ends of the earth for Your possession."

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Revelation 2:27, "‘He will rule them with an iron scepter; shattering them like clay pots.’"

The iron scepter is referred to as the rod of iron in the NKJV, but it is the same authority that Jesus Himself has. This is what initially led me to believe that there is a path for us all to become Sons of God, we just have to believe it. This (may) also be the only path in which we retain our natural bodily form, even while completely being of the Spirit. The Bible does not say what form we will be in, if we don't completely submit to God's commands to the very end, and part of that command is to keep believing in our full potential. Ephesians 4:13, "until all of us are united in the faith and in the full knowledge of God’s Son, and until we attain mature adulthood and the full standard of development in the Messiah." Psalm 2:9, "You shall break them with a rod of iron; You shall dash them to pieces like a potter’s vessel.’ ”

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Revelation 2:28, "‘Just as I have received authority from my Father, I will also give him the morning star."

I believe that the morning star symbolizes the true light, that is to say that the other Christians will follow this person and He will be a source of light for them in either heaven or on earth. Can one believe that Satan was so full of himself, that he gave this up. Satan also had the morning star and he just threw it away. Malachi 4:2, "But to you who fear My name The Sun of Righteousness shall arise With healing in His wings; And you shall go out And grow fat like stall-fed calves."

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Revelation 2:29, "‘Let everyone listen to what the Spirit says to the churches.’”

This message has a dual purpose. It is telling this individual about the purpose of what he is experiencing and receiving, but it is also a warning to the Churches. God has lost His faith in the Churches of the earth. This is the reason that He is giving to another this authority, and Israel did ask for a King. So God gave them one and He is giving them one again, that is one part of the Promises (the blessings from the annulment of the Law or the first covenant). The other part of the Promise being the release of the Holy Spirit and being able to receive Baptism by Faith. Matthew 7:21-23, "Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’"

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Revelation 3:1, “To the messenger of the church in Sardis, write: ‘The one who has the seven spirits of God and the seven stars says this: ‘I know what you’ve been doing. You are known for being alive, but you are dead."

The known for being alive, but are dead is another way of saying that he was known to others on earth as being alive, they could and can see him, but as a result of the trial, his previous spirit died. Isaiah 53:7, "He was oppressed and He was afflicted, Yet He opened not His mouth; He was led as a lamb to the slaughter, And as a sheep before its shearers is silent, So He opened not His mouth."

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Revelation 3:2, "Be alert, and strengthen the things that are left, which are about to die. I note that your actions are incomplete before my God."

The person tested must continue on. He must strengthen his resolve in being the type of Christian that he wants to become. He wants to fulfill God's task, so he must continue on. I also want to point out the "Be alert" part. This is also a thing or perspective that may separate the Church from reality. In Him saying to be alert, he is saying to actually watch out for physical signs given. Very small things that one would not see if they were not paying 100% attention to. Such as, I don't know, you’re playing Civilization IV on your computer, then suddenly for no reason at all, and for the very first time, your screen gets locked up where it says, "You can't serve two Masters." How about one day you notice that you are only eating one meal a day, and are never hungry, but it took you two weeks to realize it. Your broke, your tired, your thirsty, it's 120 degrees outside, and a bus has waited on you for an entire block.

Just before his test in Revelations 2:10, he was hearing the sounds of children playing who were very close. He didn't think nothing of it, but suddenly he decides to look in his back yard, and nobody is there. So he goes through the front door, and what he noticed was that the decibel range was exactly the same no matter where he went, he could hear them at exactly the same volume. That is when he knew something was up, but what was that? Because he knew that something wasn't right, he immediately saw this as something that God was doing. He didn't stop to think, will others think I'm crazy? No, it’s God! then the test started the next day. Just to give you a taste of how this went down, he went into the kitchen to turn the light on, and the light exploded, very loudly. The day after that, he noticed that the light was still intact, so he flipped the switch, and the light came back on! I have another whole story for what happened during this test, but I'm going to save that part until some of you all start actually believing this.

Fast forward to these days, just before this anointing begun to happen, he noticed that when he turned his bedroom light off in his apartment, he could hear the fan stopping. Well guess what? There is no Fan! He was hearing the same pattern from the previous apartment that he was living in! SO, PAY ATTENTION! Isaiah 53:6, All we like sheep have gone astray; We have turned, everyone, to his own way; And the Lord has laid on Him the iniquity of us all.

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Revelation 3:3, "So remember what you received and heard. Obey it, and repent. If you are not alert, I will come like a thief, and you won’t know the time when I will come to you."

God is telling this individual that it would be wise to remember this trial and to use that remembrance to maintain being alert, to keep the fear of God in him. God is saying that he will come back to him again in the near future at a time that he will not know (as previously stated, He came back). So even though he has eternal life, he is still being tested for the task that God wants to give him. When he was resurrected in the Spirit, he received a new Spirit from God. This was interesting, because on the last day when he could not stay awake any longer, he wakes up at about 3:00 a.m., and touching himself says, "Wow, I'm still alive!" He thought he was going to die because that is what he asked for. Just in that second and of about two seconds, he feels this energy pass from the lower part of his body all the way up. It felt like a "donut" of energy that was around him and moved from the bottom of his body to the top, and it remained with him for about another five seconds. He didn't know if the energy was from Satan or God, still ignorant. Later of course, he realized that the energy was from God and it most likely was the event where he received the new Spirit. Ezekiel 36:25-27, "Then I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you shall be clean; I will cleanse you from all your filthiness and from all your idols. I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you; I will take the heart of stone out of your flesh and give you a heart of flesh. I will put My Spirit within you and cause you to walk in My statutes, and you will keep My judgments and do them."

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Revelation 3:4, "But you have a few people in Sardis who have not soiled their clothes. They will walk with me in white clothes because they are worthy."

This is the warning to the person who has passed the test. If he does not continue to follow the path that God has laid out for him, there are others who are already lined up to take care of those duties. This is also very interesting, because as the Bible is kind of hiding the return of the Hebrew Messiah, but as I've been learning that it’s more of a blending of the two Messiahs, it's stating that His coming was not guaranteed. Hence, His coming appearing to be hidden, even though God already knows how everything will work out. Revelation 19:8, " And to her it was granted to be arrayed in fine linen, clean and bright, for the fine linen is the righteous acts of the saints."

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Revelation 3:5, "The person who overcomes in this way will wear white clothes, and I will never erase his name from the Book of Life. I will acknowledge his name in the presence of my Father and his angels."

Upon successful completion of both tests, he will wear white clothes. This is another way of saying that he will become a Son of God. Even going beyond the "Crown of Life" itself, His name will never be erased from the "Book of Life." He will be granted special authority to be known to the Father himself and to the angels, even to the Archangels of His new authority. This is where I get to begin expanding outside of Revelation, in Revelation 2:27, that is a direct reference to Psalm 2:9. Which means that the remainder of Psalm 2 has a 99.9% chance of speaking of the same person as in context. Psalm 2:12, "Kiss the Son, lest He be angry, and you perish in the way, when His wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all those who put their trust in Him." I have even seen in theologian studies that this is stating that God has already called him a Son of God. I don't mean to freak anyone out, but I'm trying to make a hard point here. Something big is happening. We are in Revelation right now! Psalm 23:4, "Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil; For You are with me; Your rod and Your staff, they comfort me." Matthew 11:7-10, "As they departed, Jesus began to say to the multitudes concerning John: “What did you go out into the wilderness to see? A reed shaken by the wind? But what did you go out to see? A man clothed in soft garments? Indeed, those who wear soft clothing are in kings’ houses. But what did you go out to see? A prophet? Yes, I say to you, and more than a prophet. For this is he of whom it is written: ‘Behold, I send My messenger before Your face, Who will prepare Your way before You.’"

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Revelation 3:8, "‘I know what you’ve been doing. Look! I have put in front of you an open door that no one can shut. You have only a little strength, but you have obeyed my word and have not denied my name."

This is the "key to heaven," the open door that never shuts. He is complimenting His new Son that even with little strength or power, he was able to fulfill God's test because of His faith and desire to follow His Master. Isaiah 54:2, "“Enlarge the place of your tent, And let them stretch out the curtains of your dwellings; Do not spare; Lengthen your cords, And strengthen your stakes." Psalm 23:6, "Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me All the days of my life; And I will dwell in the house of the Lord Forever."

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Revelation 3:9, "I will make those who belong to the synagogue of Satan—those who claim to be Jews and aren’t, but are lying—come and bow down at your feet. Then they will realize that I have loved you."

This is one of the reasons that He keeps speaking to the Churches. God is trying to embarrass them, to make them ashamed for not following the true potential of man. They helped to keep God's promises bottled up for their own earthly ambitions. One can say that they are a Teacher, but if they don't want to teach what God wants, then let them step out of the way for people who "are not great teachers," but who are not afraid to teach the Truth. For as long as they are the ones standing on the podium, God's voice is muted. Isaiah 54:16, "Behold, I have created the blacksmith Who blows the coals in the fire, Who brings forth an instrument for his work; And I have created the spoiler to destroy." Psalm 91:13, "You shall tread upon the lion and the cobra, The young lion and the serpent you shall trample underfoot." Psalm 110:1, "The Lord said to my Lord, “Sit at My right hand, Till I make Your enemies Your footstool.”"

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Revelation 3:10, "Because you have obeyed my command to endure, I will keep you from the hour of testing that is coming to the whole world to test those living on the earth."

This is a strange clue of how close we are to the end or at least to tribulation. God will keep Him from the hour of trial that is at hand. We should point out the word "obeyed" since this is why Israel is in such trouble with Him right now, because they are not obeying His statutes. To how much of obeying vs. not ignoring, we don't know, but personally I think that by them ignoring God's presence, they are not obeying His presence. They are forgetting who they belong to. Isaiah 54:17, "No weapon formed against you shall prosper, And every tongue which rises against you in judgment You shall condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the Lord, And their righteousness is from Me,” Says the Lord." Psalm 91:3-4, "Surely He shall deliver you from the snare of the fowler And from the perilous pestilence. He shall cover you with His feathers, And under His wings you shall take refuge; His truth shall be your shield and buckler."

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Revelation 3:11, "I am coming soon! Hold on to what you have so that no one takes your victor’s crown."

God is telling His new apprentice to stay on the path and to not be deceived by others no matter how cunning they may be, but this is the person who knows who the betrayers are. He can see them. James 1:12, "Blessed is the man who endures temptation; for when he has been approved, he will receive the crown of life which the Lord has promised to those who love Him."

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Revelation 3:12, "I will make the one who overcomes to become a pillar in the sanctuary of my God, and he will never go out of it again. I will write on him the name of my God, the name of the city of my God (the new Jerusalem coming down out of heaven from God), and my own new name.

He will be in the Throne Room with Jesus! Jesus represents the new Temple. He will stand as a pillar inside the Temple. In other words, He will have authority from the Temple itself and be within the sanctuary of God. He will never have to leave heaven if He so chooses. Write on him the name of my God is saying that he will be a Son of God. Write on him the city of my God is saying that he will have an honorary role as in the God Head itself, and His own new name as in the name of the Messiah or Christ. Psalm 23:6, "Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me All the days of my life; And I will dwell in the house of the Lord Forever." Hebrews 12:22-24, "But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, to an innumerable company of angels, to the general assembly and church of the firstborn who are registered in heaven, to God the Judge of all, to the spirits of just men made perfect, to Jesus the Mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling that speaks better things than that of Abel."

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Revelation 3:15, "‘I know your actions, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were cold or hot."

He is talking to the leaders of the Churches again. They are trying to play both roles believing that just by getting the word out and telling of Jesus that it is enough for everyone to get saved. Even if it were enough to get saved, what would be the condition of being saved. We are meant to push ourselves to the limits for God, to test ourselves or to allow ourselves to be tested. We say that we do as what our Father demands, yet we still live for this world, following the world’s laws, preaching the world’s politics, relying on money to resolve our fears. Using material things to stage and say that we are better than our neighbor, not in the material things, but better in the Spiritual things! We know more because we have more, we are rich! Our confidence to grow as Christians is coming from the material as much as the immaterial, and that is being “lukewarm.”

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Revelation 3:16, "Since you are lukewarm and neither hot nor cold, I am going to spit you out of my mouth."

Because they minister of both the Spiritual and of the Material, they have no value to God. The analogy of spit you out is just right, it's telling of something that tastes bad, because it has become tainted with foulness. Unbearable to consume.

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Revelation 3:17, "You say, “I am rich. I have become wealthy. I don’t need anything.” Yet you don’t realize that you are miserable, pitiful, poor, blind, and naked."

Are we teaching what God wants to say or are we teaching to people what they want to hear. We are putting too much emphasis on surviving of this world, and we are missing the entire point of looking at how to survive our test of this world. They have lost site of the eternal reward and are solely still so focused on what is happening in this world right now.

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Revelation 3:18, "Therefore, I advise you to buy from me gold purified in fire so you may be rich, white clothes to wear so your shameful nakedness won’t show, and ointment to put on your eyes so you may see."

He is giving them one last opportunity to repent. Teach us of the mysteries, powers, and wonders that each one of our potential selves have. Faith isn't something that comes in a bottle or from a Church, it comes from the individual's desire to pursue heavenly quests and is reinforced by God through one’s personal observations and sacrifices. The riches are not of, or in this world, the riches are in heaven. The gift of teaching isn't in the ability to sell a product, it’s in the ability to sell the truth of the true rewards. Although, we should not be motivated by those either, but to serve our Maker and Redeemer by the zeal of the Spirit.

There is more information that I would like to share with you all about what it was like to endure this test, but I'm trying to stick to what is relevant here. I did not know that this event was in Scripture until I went to church at about a year after being at Crossroads (halfway house) after I lost my real house, and I went to a Church called Living Streams in Northern Phoenix. I remember the minister struggling with Revelation 2:10, he was trying to determine what time period ten days was, ten days, ten weeks, ten years. I was tempted to tell him, but it was still a surprise to me that what he was ministering was actually in the Bible. Just take a step back and imagine for a second, it's you, you are this person. You went through this test and then went to church a year later, to hear that what you went through is in Revelation.

The Messiah is the door to heaven, who is Mediator, who has final command and authority, the One who is encapsulating the new and final covenant, but if you say that the entire Bible is about Jesus, you have utterly missed the entire point. The Bible is about us, the Israelites, and Gentiles. It is greatly important to recognize Jesus as our Savior or Redeemer, but we need to look at the whole picture here. Remember, Matthew 7:29, He wants You to have authority. Don't feel guilty for being a part of your own Divine Intervention, we are much more likely to not win our Lords favor, by not advocating for ourselves. All we have to do is to make sure that we separate our earthly asperations from our Heavenly ones. Don't pray for material things!

But we can pray for things that help us to further our progress into the ambitions of works by Faith. What is our country now, what is our house? It is the world. The world has become much smaller of a place. We believe that Enoch and Elijah were taken up, but we won't believe in such things in this day. The more "advanced" that we become, dependent that we become on this world, the more ignorant of the Spiritual world we are. Hence the Mark of the Beast, because the only way to sell that, is to not sell the glory and riches of Heaven, and the sacrifices needed to get there.

Prophetic word in March of 2010 in lieu of Matthew 7:22, "He who casts out demons in your name, in your name, will see many wonderous things." The casting out of the demons had to do with the demons that I had to face while enduring the test, but it is also in Matthew 7:22 which is the exact verse that it replaced when I was reading the bible while in the spiritual prison and it says, "Many will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?'" Do you see where it repeats the word 'Lord' twice and then in the prophetic word it repeats 'your name' twice? It's like it is saying that the Church wants to emphasize that they are doing the right thing, and God wants to emphasize that they can't do the right thing in the way that they are currently doing it. One of the first things that we have to stop doing is reading the Bible so two dimensionally.

Look how many dimensions are here. 1.) We have two different books basically saying the same thing in regard to the Churches, Matthew 7 and Revelation 2-3. 2.) We have the prophetic word stating why something is happening that is in context to what is happening in Revelation, but also Matthew 7:22, and how that relates to the Churches behaviors. 3.) What is actually being said in Matthew 7:22 about casting out demons, and actually having a practical application for what I was going through during the test, and that both verses are mentioning the casting out of demons. 4.) Fulfilling prophecy that a person like this, not saying that it is me, that is going to have a dramatic affect during the end times like in Revelation 11:18, "The nations were angry, and Your wrath has come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that You should reward Your servants the prophets and the saints, and those who fear Your name, small and great, and should destroy those who destroy the earth.". 5.) Matthew 7:1-6, where Jesus is speaking about the Churches again where they are basically following the Law, because the law judges, and Revelation 2-3: is speaking of Churches trying to establish the type of hierarchy where they remain in control and in many cases working directly with the wealthy to maintain that control.

We need to put some resources back into the base, and helping some brothers and sisters out can go a long way. We have a huge homeless population right now, yes, a population of homeless people. We are also in too many cases directing people away from God and more to material types of items. We measure everything by money. "How did that project work out?" "We saved a bunch of money!" Where is the mission, the teamwork, the satisfaction of a job well done. We measure everything by money. Social intelligence is just a way to justify terrible marketing techniques, extroverts run the world, because their aggressive enough to grab people’s attention even if they don't have the answers. We are lacking true leaders. Putting the power into the hands of only a few people is not in God's plan. Not unless you consider the end of the plan to be a plan.

Just recently, I was contemplating which new verses that I need to memorize and remembered the prophetic word that I mentioned above in Matthew 7:22. What I noticed just beyond that verse was Matthew 7:29, "for He taught them as one having authority, and not as the scribes." Alright, so if we take them two verses in context with what the point was about regarding the Churches in Revelation 2-3, and compare that to Revelation 2:6, "But this you have, that you hate the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate." According to some research that I was doing in regard to the Nicolaitans, they were a church that wanted to have an earthly hierarchy as in having an elitist or authoritarian agenda. So, get out your inkhorn, here it is. The prophetic words that I heard while going through the test in Revelation 2-3, directly fits to the chapter of Matthew 7. What God is trying to tell You and me is that we are supposed to believe in our own authority as we see or read it in the Scripture, not how someone else is telling us it is supposed to be, why? Firstly, it could be incorrect, false, like the teachings of the Nicolaitans. Secondly, God has a path for each one of us to follow. The Holy Ghost is the one who will tell us how to read the word for our individual circumstances.

To God we are individual creatures as much as we are creatures of humanity. Speaking of Humanities, I was writing about Pilgrimages in a Humanities class, but in writing the paper, I realized that there was real value in a Pilgrimage, because it’s not just about where one is going to but also, it is about what one is leaving behind. Sometimes we need to get away from the "noise" of everything and that can include the Church. We need to read the Bible as if we are the Church, because each one of us is a walking Temple. I have been receiving physical anointings since October of 2023. Just to make sure that we are all on the same page here to what I mean by "physical anointing," because my pasture said something about "it not being a feeling," which is why I think that he is reading my page, but let me more clearly define what I mean by my physical anointings.

Let's say this is you and this is what you are experiencing. You have this constant "ribbin" like feeling on the top of your head that is "moving" or is a dynamic feeling. Somtimes it's just there, at other times it feels like a needle touching your skin. If you move to do something in regard to reading the Scriptures, the sensations will get stronger. Sometimes you can sense this moving around your eyes or even going into your nose, like it's trying to get your attention and it thinks that it is funny to go into your nose! It feels like a moving spirit, because that is exactly what it is. Whether it is the Holy Ghost, a single angel, multiple angels, or maybe it's all the above, but no matter what time of the day it is, whether your going to sleep, waking up, or even taking an Exam! It's ever present.

I have to be this detailed, because a pature implied that it was just a "feeling." Well a knife in the back is just a feeling because you can't see it, right? As the Bible mentions that the Spirit makes groaning noises, but to you it sounds like small clicking noises that sometimes respond when you're attempting to communicate with Him. More recently I will feel what feels like water drops hitting my skin. Before I depart from this subject, I want to show you one more thing. Do you see where in Revelation 13:3 it says,

"And I saw one of his heads as if it had been mortally wounded, and his deadly wound was healed. And all the world marveled and followed the beast."

There isn't anywhere in the Bible that gives an explanation for this, which is very interesting of course. About a month after I came out of this test, I had to find a new place to live and I was staying at a place called Crossroads in Glendale, AZ. I remember sitting down and writing a letter, but I don't know for sure if the letter that I have was written then or when I was going through the test, but I wanted to share this letter with you. The only other reference could be in Revelation 19:15, and you will also see the reference to the one who holds the "rod of iron."

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I have seen the Jews for Jesus website, link here, and I thought that it would be a good "heads on" exercise for a challenge. If a Jew is for Jesus, they are just saying that they are Christians who happen to be Jewish, but who are implying that they are some kind of hybrid mixture of being Judaic and Christian. Which is ridiculous comparison and not even transparent. It's a deceitful play on words, because they are Jews in regard to heritage but not faith, lest they want to spend more time doing some internal debating. If we said Muslims for Jesus, it would not quite have the same kick. Let’s keep the funny going, Asians for Jesus, alright that is enough now.

This may appear as a contradiction, but I think that there is such a thing as a Judaic Christian, because I am established in the Old Testament, but am open minded to beliefs about the Messiah that Jews would not consider. Also, many of the prophecies have not been fulfilled. I believe in the Union of the Messiah, that there will be a chosen Messiah who is not Jesus and that this person is also a Redeemer who perfects us to God through His benevolence, who we are baptized with, and who is the head of the body and the cornerstone of the Temple of Heaven. Psalm 2:7, the Messiah is the true Son of God and the firstborn. Alright, let’s start our list.

1.) The Messiah would be resurrected
[Psalms 16:8-11 is being referenced here.]
They are trying to show a person who dies, but then who doesn't die? It's interesting that by referencing Psalms, they are acknowledging that Psalms is the 'first person' Messiah. I'll give them that, but I don't know how they tie that to being Jesus when Jesus clearly has left the building. What does it really sound like, like a mortal who died and is still alive and still on earth? It sounds a lot like Revelation 2:10 to me. Like the person who was tested on the 'fringes' of hades, but who didn't see 'the pit,' but then is released from his spiritual prison to still be present on earth. It does not sound at all like a person who died, went to heaven, and then came back 2000 years later but who actually hasn't come back yet.
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2.) The Messiah will bring a new Covenant
[Jeremiah 31:31 is referenced here.]
It states that the new covenant will be made with both Israel and Judah. Again, notice that it does not have a time frame. It does not state that it is the covenant directly after Moses or Joshua. If you read the rest of the chapter, you will see many key indicators that this is of the end times. It appears to be the 'Final Covenant.' When the end times do happen and the Messiah reigns, Jesus's covenant will make way for the covenant of, or the age of, the Messiah. Hence, this again points more to the covenant of the Messiah than to Jesus.
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3.) The Messiah would be forsaken and pierced, but vindicated
[Psalm 22:1-31 is given here.]
This is a reference to the piercing and of vindication. This they don't even try on; it's basically just a lie on a lie. Look at the JPS version of


Psalm 22:17, "For dogs have encompassed me; A company of evil doers have enclosed me; Like a lion, they are at my hands and my feet."


The word 'pierced' isn't even in there. Of course, more doctoring of the books by the Orthodox and Catholic "churches." The Messiah may be vindicated, but does Jesus look for vindication? I don't even think that the Messiah wants 'justice.' It's God who is really angry and is getting justice for the Messiah. At this point in the time of the Messiah's life, he is just looking for relief from his suffering. It's God who wants to shame the "churches" and to bring them down so that He can bring the Messiah up.
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4.) The Messiah would be the rejected cornerstone
[Psalm 118:22-24 is being referenced here.]
It does not imply that Jesus is the Messiah, but it's implying that the Messiah is Jesus? Confusing, no? Like what's the point Scooby. rhh dohn knuh. If you read the rest of Psalm 118, you will see someone who does not resemble Jesus. I have already discussed this in the article "Architect, Foundation, and Cornerstone."
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5.) The Messiah would do life-affirming redemptive deeds
[Psalm 61:1-2 is being referenced here.]
It does not entirely tie in to the concept of redemptive acts. Jesus did "redemptive acts" by healing people and removing their demons and showing the power of God. Isaiah 61 is solving the 'me' issue as to who this person is. It's not Jesus, it's the Messiah. Jesus got all of his 'power' nearly at once where the Messiah gets his 'power' over time. God has set up the Messiah's path before him and on that path is all of us who move in the ways of him. Do you see where it says, "...to proclaim liberty to the captives and release to the prisoners..." in Isaiah 61. Now look what it says in Revelation 2:13. Here it is stating that this person is literally in hades where the prisoners are, where he is "living."
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6.) The Messiah would be born of a virgin
[Isaiah 7:14 is being referenced here.]
It does not really say virgin, but (young woman). Use the NRSVUE version to see this. The young woman is being represented as Israel and one of the Messiah's alternate names is 'Israel'. This can be further explained in Isaiah 8:1-4. It's a prophetic/prophesized birth that will happen in the far future. "The Jews for Christians" want this passage really bad, because if it were not referencing Jesus, it would be another one of the Messiah's alternate names. Immanuel has been used in Jesus's name so many times that they can't depart with it, but it's 'God with us,' not for 36 years, but forever.
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7.) The Messiah would come according to the timetable
[Daniel 9:24-27 is being referenced here.]
Daniel had his vision in 607 BCE. King Cyrus was made a Messiah around 550 BCE. The decree to rebuild the Temple went out by King Cyrus in 538 BCE. 538 BCE - 490 years = 48 BCE. The timetable does not match up with what the "Churches" say. They say that the clock began ticking with the order to improve the temple that was issued in 457 BCE, despite logic clearly being on the other side. Who I consider the rational people to be, will have that the decree to rebuild the temple has not been issued yet, which means that it was not to be the second temple, but the third. This is logical in that Daniel had seen a prophecy for the future. The other reason that the 538 BCE date makes more sense than the 457 BCE date is because King Cyrus was anointed a Messiah by God. His decree would have meant much more than Artaxerxes's. The first decree would have been much more significant than the second one as well. Darius I, also issued a decree to rebuild the temple in 519 BCE, so clearly, we can see that the "church" is just choosing the date that they want.
Daniel 9:26-27 is also used to say that the Messiah was foretold to die, meaning a mortal death. This is actually the main point of these versus verses the actual time table. The verse states, "...The Messiah will be cut off, but not for himself." That sentence is the entire reason that is "prophesied" that the Messiah dies, hence Jesus being hung on the cross. Yet, it does not actually say that the Messiah dies, it says, "cut off." Right after that it says, "but not for himself." Which is actually saying that he does not die, correct?
Then look at Daniel 9:27, "He shall make a strong covenant with many for one week, and for half of the week he shall make sacrifice and offering cease, and in their place shall be a desolating sacrilege until the decreed end is poured out upon the desolator."
In other words, the Messiah never dies in the body. Hence no reason to use this as prophecy that Jesus is the Messiah. The Promised Davidic Messiah does not physically die, he is given a new Spirit. The craziest part about this is that it's quite possible that Jesus never died on the cross but went straight back to heaven. That would actually be better evidence of Him being the Messiah, but David 9:26-27 is about a future/near end time.
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8, 9, 10.) The Suffering Servant of Isaiah 53 is the Messiah who would bear our sins and suffer in our place, who would not remain dead, see his seed, and with prolonged days and be exalted
[Isaiah 52-53 is being referenced here.]
This is never proven to be one way or the other as far as it being the Messiah or Jesus. From my perspective, we have more evidence for it being the Promised Messiah and not of Jesus. I have spoken of it here, but let’s highlight a few passages again. The first place that we come to is Isaiah 52:11-12. We can see that there is a person who is being spoken to by God that says that He (God the Father) will be in front of this person and that the God of Israel will be behind him. Jesus came directly from the Father (El); so, it would not be likely that He would be sent on another mission before the God of Israel (Yahweh). Jesus had His own mission directly from God the Father. In Isaiah 52:13-15 it states that this person (man) was so unrecognizable that he was not considered to be equal to any other man, and because of this, he was lifted up by God.
Now some Christians are going to say that he was physically unrecognizable, but what it actually means is that he is unrecognizable as a person because of the burden of the human law upon his existence or life. We live in a type of class or cast society, so in this type of environment, we can see how someone could be less than equal to a man. Hence the need to not be physically lifted up, but to be lifted up among others within a cast system. He suddenly become respected without others own knowledge as to why they respect this person (On a conscious level). In Isaiah 53:3, it says that this person was/is acquainted with disease. As far as I know, Jesus didn't have a disease.
So what type of disease could this be. How about alcoholism, that is a disease. At the very least it’s a prevailing affliction of the mind and body which is difficult to treat. A person who is suffering would be extremely tempted to self-medicate, and then this would be another thing that the Suffering Servant would have to overcome. The afflictions bring about afflictions just like the long-term consequences of being punished by the law of men. It goes on to say that society is inflicted with diseases that the Suffering Servant bears. The next thought should be is this a very intense but short term suffering, or is it a slightly barable long term affliction. If we go with the later, it makes sense when we are referencing Psalms as being the Suffering Servant in regard to this being a long term suffering. Over the duration of this person's entire life. Someone who lives to have 'gray hairs.'
Isaiah 53:4 is interesting too. It says that we regarded this person has been "smitten by God." In other words, because he was punished by our laws, he was punished by God as well. Not even in the majority text have I seen where it was inferred that Jesus was being punished by God. After that, the comparisons between Jesus and the Messiah in verse 53 get so blurry that it is hard to say the difference, but we may well be making some assumptions such that death meant to physically die, but as Paul has said. There is the old flesh and the new flesh, and both are references to still being physically alive but going through a transformation process.
In Marcion's version of the Epistles of Paul, Paul puts it a little differently and says to not be in the flesh at all. So, the distinction is that the majority text "new flesh" is actually to be in the Spirit, but still physically present. So, as far as number 10 goes, Jesus died in physical form. The one mentioned in Isaiah 52 and 53 did not die in physical form. We can't both be Suffers of the Messiah and be dead, that is simple logic.
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11.) The Messiah would be preceded by Elijah the prophet
[Malachi 4:5-6 is referenced here.]
It state that Elijah will proceed the Messiah. This of course actually proves that the Messiah has not come, and that Jesus is not the Messiah, but they turn to Matthew 11:14-15 for their proof.
"For all the Prophets and the Law prophesied until John came, and if you are willing to accept it, he is Elijah who is to come."
There are many things wrong here. The first is that verses Matthew 11:14-15 is not in the Book of Luke, so the verse was most likely inserted since the entire Book of Matthew is fabricated anyway. The second part is to look at the previous verse. It actually asks the reader a question. It says that "if you are willing to accept it," John is Elijah. Do I need to say more? Not only is John not Elijah or Elijah not John, but clearly this verse was added. The fact that the verse does not show up in Marcion's texts or in the Book of Luke, highly suggests that it is inserted. Elijah was never the forerunner for Jesus; hence Jesus can't be the Messiah.
Let me explain what has or will happen. Elijah does not need to return in the flesh, he only needs to return in the Spirit. He can influence what the Messiah does through the Holy Spirit, but if I were a betting person. I would probably say that at some point Elijah will return in the flesh, but it wasn't during the time of Jesus or in the body of another person. Under this scenario it is then possible that John was influenced by Elijah in the Spirit, but that isn't true either, because John the Baptist was the forerunner for Jesus. Another reason that Elijah didn't influence Jesus's choices is because Jesus was in both the celestial and the terrestrial worlds at the same time. He would have known that Elijah was present. There needed to be a physically present John to set up Elijah to be the forerunner for the Messiah. I can't say that Isaiah 40:3 is specifically for John the Baptist either, because it's still speaking in the terms of the end times or a time beyond Jesus's physical presence.
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12.) The Messiah would be a prophet like Moses
[Deuteronomy 18:15–19 is referenced here.]
It is about the prophecy of the Messiah. It does not really imply either the Messiah or Jesus, but since it is mentioning the priests in the previous verses and that the prophets’ words would create "things to happen," I would say that this is a prophecy for Jesus's coming. It does not imply the Messiah in any way such as David's lineage, the Son of God, the Messenger, or anything of the like. Upon the Messiah's appearance, it will probably be more obvious that something is going down. Personally, I think that the Messiah will be a Messenger before he becomes the Messiah and that then could possibly be him as the Messenger, but within the scope of time here. It appears to be something that would happen within Jesus's time of His first appearance. It could have also been the prophet, Elijah.
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13.) The Messiah would be pierced
[Zachariah 12:10 is referenced here.]
Were it says "...and then they will look on me whom they pierced...." Very interestingly this verse is also referenced by Paul for proof of the Messiah connection. Although I will say that this on the surface is difficult to refute, the word 'pierce' does have other analogical meanings such as wound, revile, starve, or even slain. If one were to put it into context with the ending of the verse stating "Yes, they will mourn for Him as one mourns for his only son..." In this context, it can very well be to either wound or kill, especially in the analogical sense. Either way, both Jesus and the Messiah have suffered and would be "pierced" by their enemies. This is the same thing as saying that since Jesus came first, He is the Messiah, because we don't know 'how' the Messiah would be injured physically, because His wounds are "unseen." Another way to look at this word is in the deeper meaning. To pierce would mean to do damage other than just the physical such saying, "that analogy 'pierced' my soul." In the context of the Bible, we would put just as much emphasis on the deep meaning of the word.
Then there is the peculiar such that when I think if Jesus being pierced, it's when He was nailed to the cross, but this topic does not come about until "John" mentions the Roman soldier piercing Jesus in the side after Jesus had expired. More peculiar is that we actually don't know who wrote the Book of John, outside of the bodies of the churches, it's not really considered to be Canonical. Then there is the Marcion version of the story that Jesus never came into the flesh at all (which puts doubt on the last two chapters (19 & 20) being original). This leaves only Paul to state that Jesus was crucified, but Paul never directly states that Jesus was crucified in a physical way. He only mentions being crucified by the cross which also means 'our burden' or to carry the burden upon ourselves. The 'crux' or cross is the anti to what society believes to be correct verses our sacrifices to carry the burdens of others.
Then there are the Scribes who don't help us at all, but who have actually made this whole interpretation much more complicated. For example, take a look at:


(NRVSUE) Galatians 6:17, "From now on, let no one make trouble for me, for I carry the marks of Jesus branded on my body."


We see here that the word 'Christ' was replaced with the word 'Jesus.'


(The Epistles of Paul) Galatians 6:15, "For the rest let no one give to me troubles: for I bear the marks of Christ in my body."


The addition of the word 'Jesus' for the word 'Christ' is actual heresy, and here "they" want to call Marcion a heretic. The changing of the wording is like our going from apples to oranges analogy to a farm and produce comparison. It's such a huge difference. The bottom line here is that the word 'pierce' is not enough evidence to say that it points to Jesus, especially since it is not in the context of speaking of the Word or of Wisdom which would be the only two possible references when speaking of Jesus from the Old Testament, but I would go with Wisdom in that case.
Another weird hypocrisy by the true Heretics is that they (Tertullian) argue that Marcion doesn't believe in the Old Testament at all, but actually everything is completely opposite of what they say. This is why I LOVE logic. Tertullian says that Jesus is the only relative Messiah, therefore there isn't a relative Old Testament Messiah, therefore the Old Testament is wrong. Which is what he is claiming that Marcion is claiming. Whilst Marcion who does not actually deny the Old Testament is saying that Jesus is not the Messiah prophesized by the Old Testament, but who is a very real and significant figure resembling a Messiah. This then leaves room for there to be another Prophesized Messiah from the Old Testament, therefore not making the Old Testament irrelevant, but relevant despite there being someone who appears to be the Messiah. There is little more satisfying than catching someone who is more intelligent than myself in their own game.
After all of that though, all I probably had to say was this. Zechariah 12:10 does not say that the Messiah was pierced. It says that God was pierced.


Zechariah 12:10, "And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for [his] only [son], and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for [his] firstborn."


That came from Scripture for all. This just further elaborates that we are making too much of an action verses the consequence of the violence. There is a difference between the Old Testament that of our Christian Bibles and that of the actual Hebrew Scriptures. Here is another translation for more perspective.


Zechariah 12:10, "But I will fill the House of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem with a spirit of pity and compassion; and they shall lament to Me about those who are slain, wailing over them as over a favorite son and showing bitter grief as over a first-born."


There is the word 'slain' which is the word that I corrected my Bible with.
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14) The Messiah would come riding on a donkey
[Zechariah 9:9 is the verse being referenced here.]


(Revised JPS 2023) Zechariah 9:9, "Rejoice greatly, Fair Zion; Raise a shout, Fair Jerusalem! Lo, your king is coming to you. He is victorious, triumphant, Yet humble, riding on a donkey, on a jackass foaled by a jenny."


I typically like to go to the more literal meanings, but in this case, it does appear to be an analogy. It expresses humility and the foal represents a type of potential growth. This comparison from Matthew 21:1-7 is only more evidence of the Bible being tampered with. The "Scribe" or author of Matthew added these verses intentionally to make it irrefutable that there was a connection to the prophesized Messiah. This New Testament cross reference is not in either Marcion's Gospel or in Paul's Epistles. Of course, the Messiah can't both be coming on a donkey and coming in the clouds unless this is of two different periods of time. The Messiah lives in the flesh, then ascends as a new Spirit and then during the end times is where he returns as the one coming in the clouds.
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15) The Messiah would be called out of Egypt
[Hosea 11:1 is being referenced here.]
This does not necessarily mean that this is a reference to the Messiah. The 'son' could be Israel itself. Although the Messiah is also called Israel as the head of that body. It could even be a reference to Moses. Moses certainly could be called God's son. It's most likely pointing to the string of the Promise that would uphold and restore Israel. There is not enough here to state that it is a reference to either Jesus or the Messiah directly. If we look down to Hosea 11:12, "Ephraim has encircled Me with lies, And the house of Israel with deceit; But Judah still walks with God, Even with the Holy One who is faithful."
That verse could be also speaking about the Messiah as being represented as Judah who walks with the Holy One (God of Isreal). We see a very strong connection with the God of Israel and the Promised Messiah. Marcion theorized that Jesus was from God the Father, The Almighty. This being one of two or three reasons that I don't like the concept of the "Trinity." As for one, Jesus is also a Son of God, but he is of the type directly from the Father. It is possible that the Messiah could also be this type of Son, as the Bible references an Entity who was used for creation, but I see this person moving through the entire process of being fully man and then eventually becoming glorified Son of Man to Son of God.
Gospel of Marcion 7:(...1...), "...I thank you, Lord of heaven, that you have hid these things from the wise and prudent, and have revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it was well-pleasing before you. All things were delivered to me by my Father: and no man knows who the Father is, but the Son, and who the Son is, but the Father, and he to whomsoever the Son wishes to reveal him..." In Marcion's verse it appears that Jesus is speaking of two different deities. He's speaking to the "Lord of Heaven" and "The Father."
Although the second part of the verse is still somewhat confusing, where it says, "even so, Father; for so it was well-pleasing before you," but that is still a part of the first sentence. What it's saying is that what the Lord of Heaven had done to reveal the secret things only to 'babes', was also pleasing to God the Father, "Even so" (also was) pleasing before the Father's eyes. This stands out in the majority text of Matthew 11:26 as being its own verse, "Even so, Father, for so it seemed good in Your sight.". Look up Matthew 11:25-26 and see how it reads differently? It is making both the Lord of Heaven and God the Father the same person, but it does not make syntactical sense in that regard. See Jesus (Yeshua) is the 'Lord' our Savior as well but not the 'LORD' our Father, Yahweh is the 'Lord' of Heaven but not 'LORD' our Father.
If you are having a hard time accepting this more than one "Sub God's" theory, you're not alone. I have to admit that it is very difficult to break from the traditional thinking of pure monotheism, but it isn't that much harder if one thinks about it. Some still struggle whether Jesus is also God or if the Holy Ghost is also God, then we come back to God the Father to be the supreme God, hence keeping the monotheism through the One and all-powerful God. It's the same thing, but just a different way of looking at it. For example, I personally see the Holy Ghost as an 'Angel of God', but obviously God's personal angle would not be like the other angels. It's only a way to describe to us mortals what we really can't comprehend.
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16) The Messiah would be called God’s Son
[Psalm 2:1-12 is being referenced here.]
The Son is being referenced as Jesus the Messiah. I have to admit that the Jews for Jesus have almost everything right about who the Messiah is in reference to the verses. They just have the wrong person to represent the Messiah. We could also say that Jesus is a type of Messiah, but that is missing the point of who the Promised Messiah is being referenced for. I'm glad that they chose this verse, because this Chapter actually proves that Jesus is not the Chosen Messiah. Here is what the verse states in (NKJV)Revelation 2:23-27, "And I will give to each one of you according to your works. 24 “Now to you I say, and to the rest in Thyatira, as many as do not have this doctrine, who have not known the depths of Satan, as they say, I will put on you no other burden. 25 But hold fast what you have till I come. 26 And he who overcomes, and keeps My works until the end,


to him I will give power over the nations— 27 ‘He shall rule them with a rod of iron; They shall be dashed to pieces like the potter’s vessels’—


as I also have received from My Father; "


The first thing to notice about these verses is that they are from Jesus's own words. He is dispensing a test to another person. The test which is being given directly points to the person being from Psalms 2:7-9 and it says,


"7 “I will declare the decree: The Lord has said to Me, ‘You are My Son, Today I have begotten You. 8 Ask of Me, and I will give You The nations for Your inheritance, And the ends of the earth for Your possession. 9 You shall break them with a rod of iron; You shall dash them to pieces like a potter’s vessel.’"


As you can see Jesus is not going to refer to Himself from another Book, especially when He is administering the test to someone else. Jesus is the one who is choosing the Messiah!
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17) The Messiah would be betrayed for thirty pieces of silver
[Zechariah 11:12–13 is being referenced here.]
This is an attempt to show the tie between the 30 pieces of silver from Zechariah to Matthew 26:14-15. I could just end this conversation with a simple statement. There isn't any connection between the Gospel of Marcion and the 30 pieces of silver in Zechariah. This is strictly just more evidence of the "Four Gospels" being injected into our majority text. It also shows one of the many things that our minds must now unlearn so that we can move forward to actually finding out what is happening. We can't come to a comprehension of what the Word is telling us with lies. Before I found the Gospel of Marcion, I spent so many hours trying to find every little thing that didn't make sense and using cross references from the Old Testament. In other words, I have already established an argument about this before even finding the original Gospel.
The same two verses point to throwing the silver to the 'potter.' Look at Jeremiah 18:1-11 and Isaiah 64:8, then look at Revelation 2:26-27,
”And he who overcomes, and keeps My works until the end, to him I will give power over the nations—‘He shall rule them with a rod of iron; They shall be dashed to pieces like the potter’s vessels’—as I also have received from My Father;”.
So the 'potter' is God the Father, but the one who is holding the vessels of the LORD is the Messiah, which has nothing to do with Jesus being betrayed for 30 pieces of silver. To fulfill Jesus's mission, Judas didn't need to accept silver, only to turn Jesus in to the Priests for capture. Also notice that the very negative story of Judas is only mentioned in the "Four Gospels." So yes, the 30 pieces of silver are thrown to the Messiah, but not necessarily or specifically for Jesus.
This leads us down a different path because now we are looking at The Gospel of Judas which was discovered at El Minya, Egypt in 1978. Within this Scripture, it is implying that Judas assisted with Jesus's Ascension at His request after divulging secrets. Another fun fact is that scientists carbon date the Gospel of Judas to the fourth century, but Irenaeus of Lyons wrote against the Gospel of Judas before the second century. It was simply copied text from the original Scripture since they didn't have databases and printers back then (dry humor).
Here is a passage from The Gospel of Judas verse 40, "...And they are the stars that bring everything to completion. For they have said to the generations of humans, ‘Behold, God has received your sacrifice from a priest’—that is, the minister of error. But the Lord who commands is he who rules over them all; on the last day they will be put to shame."
Also note that nowhere in that Book does it mention the word 'Christ' except once, and that may have been a scribal error to actually mean "the Ram," because it is referring to an underworld deity. However, it does indirectly refer to there being someone like the Messiah. Judas takes on the curse by being persecuted by his fellow members, and the person who "commands all" on the last day will rule over all. I'm not ready to vouch for the Gospel of Judas yet, but it does show the fringes of Gnostic beliefs that were intentionally destroyed by organized religion, Orthodoxy. Obviously, this text survives, but it is interesting in that Marcion thought that Jesus was not born but was crucified. The Gospel of Judas says that Jesus only Ascended after being turned in to the Priests. The Gospel of Peter has a Jesus who was crucified but who did not feel any pain. It's implied that Marcion thought of Jesus as a Phantom, but that isn't correct.
It says that the "people" thought they had seen a Phantom. Notice how most of Marcion's Gospel is twisted completely out of meaning or context. The "enemy" isn't Gnostic beliefs which aren’t a unified ideal (but ideals) or even a religion, but the enemy is the organized Church that puts out lies for their own worldly benefit. Imagine what there could have been of the rich variety of Scripture if the Orthodoxy and Catholic Church didn't try to snuff all of the Gnostic Scriptures out. Finally, if Jesus was a Jew and he didn't agree with the Pharisees, then what type of Jew was Jesus? How about an Essene who were the very first type of Christian society 200 to 150 years before the coming of Jesus. They believed in resurrection, a judgment, living humbly in a community of the Messiah, that there was a celestial and terrestrial worlds, and in the Apocalypse. Without that, Jesus would have had a very hard time getting His message out from scratch.
The Church that we go to on Sundays right now is that form of Church. All modern-day churches are a form of Orthodoxy. It is evident in how similar all of the "different" bibles are. They pretty much say the same thing in the same way. Yes, the Church that we go to on Sunday is the same church that has destroyed, and continues to destroy Sacred Scriptures, and to call the earliest Church (the Essenes) Heretical, but it is they who are the Heretics or that the word heretic should not be used at all, because no single group of people has all of the correct answers.
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18) The Messiah would be the Son of Man
[Daniel 7:13–14 is the Scripture being referenced here.]
It is mentioning the “Son of Man” within the verses. The very first thing that jumps out at me is the phrase “Ancient of Days.” This verse is only mentioned a few times in the majority text, but it appears many times in the Book of Enoch as the “Head of Days.” Also within the Book of Enoch is the phrase “Son of Man” mentioned even many more times.
So, again yes, this is most definitely referring to the Messiah. The Book of Enoch was also among the Dead Sea Scrolls that the Essenes hid in the caves. Another interesting reference is that the scrolls were written in Aramaic which of course was Jesus’s primary language. Although I’m going to keep plugging that the Essenes were the first Christians, these texts were referring to a Messiah to come before the advent of Jesus. We could quarrel until the Apocalypse about whether or not Jesus is the Son of Man mentioned in Daniel, it still does not negate that the Jews were expecting a Messiah who would fulfill their prophecies. Nor does the Son of Man being mentioned in Daniel, state any obvious such that Jesus is the Son of Man.
Nowhere in the Gospel of Marcion is it mentioned that Jesus is the Son of Man. Yet Jesus speaks about a coming Son of Man that is not in the context of Jesus saying that He is referring to Himself as this person, rather implying another person. In Chapter six it even states that Jesus commanded them to tell nobody that He was the Messiah and then says that the Son of Man must suffer many things. Here Jesus highly appears to be referring the Messiah as being the same person as the Son of Man.
We are looking at everything through the lens of either the present or the past, but not yet the future. If we know that the future still holds secrets, then why do we pretend that the future is just going to end like an overmilked pancake? Since we have not seen the last (Promised) Messiah yet, then that is how we can pretend that He will never exist? For me, it’s a lot more crazy to think that the same person who came from God the Father is the prophesized Messiah (Old Testament), Jesus (New Testament), The Word, The Son of Man, Immanuel, The Son of God, and the future Messiah (Apocalypse) to come. If I was Jesus, I would be looking to delegate some Authority.
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19) The Messiah would be a willing sacrifice
[Genesis 22:1-18 is being referenced here.]
This is about the sacrifice that Abraham was willing to make. Although it is a requirement that the Messiah be "willing" to sacrifice their life, the sacrifice is for God and not to another human being. Abraham's son was "bound", so I would not say that Isaac was a willing sacrifice. Moses was going to sacrifice his son, but he wasn't going to commit suicide. I think that the sacrifice is for God, but I don't see the immediate connection here to the Messiah's sacrifice other than that we all must be willing to give up our fleshly lives for the Kingdom of Heaven. We could ask what is the ultimate sacrifice to be made? The Messiah was willing to suffer for everyone in hopes that he could be saved from his mistakes and because God's law is written into his heart. In other words, he could not turn down to be sacrificed if it were necessary, but this is something that did not have to be in blood. Even here in the passages of Genesis, we see that Abraham had to be willing, not necessarily die a mortal death. Again, in attempting to prove a Messiah, it's nearly proving the opposite, especially if the Messiah's Spiritual alteration is in the Spirit and not the body.
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20) The Messiah would be the Passover lamb
[Exodus 12:1-51 is being referenced here.]
It is stating that there will be a prototype sacrifice. Again, I'm not sure how this is supposed to connect with either Jesus or the Messiah. We could say that this is the very first instance of the word "lamb" being used to represent atonement, but this was atonement directly aimed to either the God of Israel or God the Father. The "Lamb" had not yet come to represent a Messiah. This is one of those situations where we prove something from another future and then say aha! Jesus is the Lamb of God! Just a second here. There is absolutely no mention of a Messiah. Moses was the prototype son of God or Messiah, but he wasn't represented as the Lamb. The other unusual connection here is in regard to the spreading of the lamb’s blood on the doors to somehow connect to the blood of Jesus, but that is it, it's the blood. It's not the blood of the Messiah, Jesus, God, or even Moses. It's just lamb’s blood, and the lamb is literally the sacrifice. I don't believe in speaking like the Pope and making religious statements to sound more religious. Nope, that won't work with me. I get right to the point especially if there isn't one.
Both Jesus and the King Messiah are represented as lambs of God. It's just another way of saying God's Sons. Sheep follow first, then they might be sacrificed, or sacrificed and eaten in this case. If the argument remains that there is still another Lamb of God to come, then the "first" lamb of God isn't necessarily also the second Lamb of God, but either could be sacrificed for God. This is the same circular argument. Since Jesus is a Messiah, He must be the one and only Lamb of God. We have not seen the second egg yet, so don't count your chickens! Circular arguments are probably the largest contributions to us not finding the truth or of the delusion set before us, but where the connection does exist for the sacrifice between Jesus and the King Messiah is in Leviticus 16. I did a previous argument here.
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21) The Messiah would be the star coming out of Jacob
[Numbers 24:17 is being referenced here.]
It is saying that there will be a Messiah to come. Again, the implication is that Jesus is the Messiah who came and is coming again, but this does not point to Jesus. It points to a Messiah to come who is chosen by Jesus. It goes right back to Revelation 3:28 that Jesus will give "him" the Morning Star and in verse 2:27 comes the "rod of iron" or the Scepter. Jesus is the conduit who is giving these things away to someone who is worthy. They are being given to someone "whose eyes are opened", "who hears the words of God", "Who sees the vison of the Almighty," "Who falls down, with eyes wide open:" We can also see the "star" as in Malachi 4: where in 4:2 we have the Sun of Righteousness.
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22) The Messiah would be born in Bethlehem
[Micah 5:2 [Hebrew Bible Verse] is the verse that is being referenced here.]
stating that the Messiah would be born in Bethlahem or the point being in Judah.
"Therefore, He shall deliver them until the time a woman in confinement gives birth. And the rest of his brothers shall return upon the children of Israel."
That is actually a very fascinating verse because it appears to be applicable to Zechariah 5:7-11. The first thing to take notice of is that this appears to be a prophecy far into the future. This was not "Jesus" at His first coming, so it would have to be at His second coming. In verse 6:12 it also implies that this person is also the BRANCH. Also notice that this person who is the expected Messiah also has the name 'Joshua.' This reinforces the concept that 'Joshua' is being used as much of a title as a name, and the Title being used is "God is Salvation" or Yehoshua. Jesus's name is Jeshua or Yeshua. During many translations and scribal miscalculations, Jeshua eventually becomes Joshua.
In Orthodoxy, the push is to make Jesus this Joshua. This suggests that the entire Bible is about Jesus because then every part which speaks of this Messiah is then referenced as being Jesus. I have another theory. The Messiah who isn't Jesus, is also called Joshua. We can see this in Zechariah. You will notice that in the Hebrew version of Micah 5:2, which is conveniently removed from our Bibles, is referencing a woman who is "in confinement." Obviously, Mary was not in confinement. The woman represents an Israel that is in 'binding' because of their backsliding. The analogical woman who represents Israel will give a spiritual birth to the Messiah. This also does not necessarily mean that it's a physical birth. If we see that the 'woman' is in a basket, then we are looking at an analogy or a spiritual birth.
We can also add back in here that there is no mention of Jesus's physical birth in the Gospel of Marcion. Marcion claims that Jesus descended and left as He was.
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23) The Messiah would be greater than David
[Psalm 110:1-4 is being referenced here.]
There is no need to even argue this, because obviously if there was another Messiah besides Jesus, He would also be greater than David. Hence an irrelevant distraction.
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24) The Messiah would be a descendant of David
[2 Samuel 7:12–16 is the verse being referenced here.]
This is a circular argument. The Promised Messiah is a descendant of David; therefore, the only thing that has to be proved is whether or not Jesus is a descendant of David, which has not been proven. Even if Jesus was a descendant of David, that is not "process of elimination" in that there could not be another Messiah who is a descendant of David. 2 Samuel 7:14 would apply to all of King David's "sons." If Solomon committed iniquity, which he did, it would also apply to all future sons of David since we are talking about the extension of David's lineage. Since Jesus never committed iniquity, the verse does not apply to Jesus as the Davidic Messiah. If one is then tempted to say that the “final” son of David didn’t commit iniquity, then I would refer back to the Messiah being reprimanded in 2 Esdras, Zechariah 3:6, Revelation 2:14, Psalm 38, 51, and there are other places but not coming to mind right now.
The other side of this argument is perhaps just as poignant in that the Messiah won't be a son of David, but a "new" David. Somone who embodies the qualities of King David. 2 Samuel 7:12 uses this Hebrew word "אֶֽת־זַרְעֲךָ֙". The shortened version of this word is "Kera," which can mean seed, but it is also used as in "spiritual seed." Which can also mean to carry on the theme of David or the throne of David, but not necessarily his physical descendant.
This also perfectly lines up with the concept of the "Branch of Jesse," since this must be a spiritual birth. The first thing that came to mind were the two verses in Revelation that use the phrase "seed of David." Imagine if what they actually meant was "the spiritual progeny of David." We can also see this in the following verse:


(ISV) Jeremiah 30:9, "Rather, they will serve the Lord their God and David their king, whom I will raise up for them."


(ISV) Jeremiah 30:21, "Their leader will be one of their own, and their ruler will come from among them. I’ll bring him near, and he will approach me, for who would otherwise dare to approach me?’ declares the Lord."


The two verses that are the counter arguments to this are Isaiah 11:1, which actually mentions the Root of Jesse and not son of David. In fact, this even further elaborates that the Messiah won't be David's son, but he will be like another son to Jesse. The other verse of contention is Jeremiah 23:5 where it states, "I will raise unto David a righteous branch." Again, it is not said by David, but unto or for him. Even if the logic were 50/50 in this issue, which it isn't, the fact that the "Christians" are forcing this to be the son of David in narrative, highly implies that much of the New Testament has been harmonized into what the "Church" wanted us to believe.
The Orthodoxy Church has taught us that if we are going to believe in something that can't be proven, then we must trust them with the truth. Well, you can trust this, because like in the Book of Jeremiah, God is imploring us to think individually about what He is commanding us to do, and to think individually when it comes to matters of faith in God. In these cases, the God of Israel, the Lord of the Heavenly Armies, is telling you that the Messiah will be "raised up," that is to say Spiritually born as a branch of Jesse and not a son of David.
Another very interesting point to be made here is that there is only one difference between Judaism and Christianity, and that is who the Messiah is. Judaism believes in the son of David concept and so does Christianity. So, the only argument between the two is who the son of David is. Yet if this entire argument isn't about the son of David at all, then would they not have more in common with a fictitious truth? Yet the truth is the glue that they can't identify and see.


Look at Isaiah 53:1, "Lord, who has believed our message (report), upon whom has the Messiah (arm) of the Lord been revealed?"


The Essenes revealed the truth, and also very interestingly the Essenes were Jews, but who initially created the qualities of the Christians. In other words, they were both Jewish and Christian, but who knew that there would be an earthly born Messiah who would both die and be reborn with a new Spirit.
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25) The Messiah is spoken of throughout the Hebrew Bible
[It just says "See Hebrew Bible."]
Alright, do you see the pattern? Now they are just getting desperate. Yes the Messiah exists, we get that! It does not mean that it is Jesus.
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26) The Messiah would be the Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, and Prince of Peace
[Isaiah 9:6–7 [Hebrew Bible 9:5-6] is being referenced here.]
The first time that I saw this passage, I choked. I'm like, wait a second, this is a mortal with all of these titles? We could look at this from the Christian "perspective" that Jesus is both "all Man and all God." Last time I checked, heaven and earth were not the same place and logos wouldn’t cover that. This is indeed about the Promised Messiah who will be called "Everlasting Father." This really begins with Chapter 1 of Isaiah, but we can jump to Isaiah 8:1 and then work it up from there, and of course I get to use the name Maher-shalal-hash-baz again to explain this. This is a very long story, so the prophetess is the one who conceives the child. First thing to note here, the prophetess isn't "Mother Mary." Our next stop could be Isaiah 8:8 which speaks of the Messiah "...He will reach up to the neck..." We can see this cross reference to:


Habakkuk 3:1-13, "God comes from Teman, the Holy One from Mount Paran. Selah. His splendor has covered the skies, the earth is full of his glory. 4 His brightness will be as lightning; a two-pronged lightning bolt flashing from his hand. This is the outward display of his power. 5 Plague will go before him; pestilence will march right behind him. 6 He took his battle position and shook the earth; with a mere look he frightened the nations. The ancient mountains disintegrated; the primeval hills were flattened. His are ancient roads. 7 I saw the tents of Cushan overwhelmed by trouble; the tent curtains of the land of Midian were shaking. 8 Was the Lord mad at the rivers? Were you angry with the rivers? Were you enraged at the sea? Such that you would climb into your horse-drawn chariots, your victorious chariots? 9 Your bow is ready for action; you commission your arrows. Selah. You cause flash floods on the earth’s surface. 10 When the mountains see you, they shake. The torrential downpour sweeps through. The great deep shouts out; it lifts its hands high. 11 The sun and moon stand still in their courses; the flash of your arrows drives them away, the bright light of your lightning-quick spear. 12 You furiously stomp on the earth; you angrily trample down the nations. 13 You march out to deliver your people, to deliver your special servant. You strike the leader of the wicked nation, laying him open from the lower body to the neck. Selah. 14 You pierce the heads of his warriors with a spear. They storm forward to scatter us; they shout with joy as if they were plundering the poor with no opposition. 15 But you trample on the sea with your horses, on the surging, raging waters."


Verse 13 is the cross reference to the "neck." My limited studies in reference to the "neck" are the point between the earth and heaven with Jerusalem being between the two. God is the head, and the Body is the Messiah. Jesus is already a part of the "head." He is the Son of God of God the Father. The body is all of us with the Messiah being the "capstone." The Lord of Hosts who is mentioned in 8:13, "whom you shall fear," is not God the Father, but the God of Israel. If you still doubt this then just look at:


Isaiah 52:12, "Yet do not depart quickly or leave in a panic. For the Lord goes before you; the God of Israel is your rear guard."


The God of Israel is also the Lord of Hosts, but who is not God the Father. Look at what it says. The Lord (God the Father) will go in front of the Messiah and the God of Israel will come from behind. Not sure why that is, it might have something to do with defense or support and of course it does say "rear guard." Jesus comes directly from God the Father. As we travel through Isaiah and cross reference to other Books such as Daniel, Zechariah, etc., we get a person who does not sound like Jesus. Jesus has the offense in terms of being the "first Messiah," and then we don't know of another except the one who we already know, but the Promised Messiah has the run in regard to there still being a future Messiah who will fulfill the remaining prophecies.
It's only assumed that Jesus is also the second coming Messiah because we are assuming that He is the first coming Messiah who apparently just had a very long break between jobs. Look also at:


Isaiah 9:4, "For their oppressive yoke and the club that strikes their shoulders, the cudgel the oppressor uses on them, you have shattered, as in the day of Midian’s defeat."


This place called Midian is also mentioned in Habakkuk 3:7. Then lets cross reference again regard to Habakkuk 3:6 where it mentions the Messiah "startling" or "frightening" the nations. You will see the same word properly used in Isaiah 52:15 where in the NKJV it says "sprinkled" but its true meaning is "startled." Isaiah 53:1, "Who has believed our report?" This person, Messiah, begins as, Isaiah 8:14, "But a stone of stumbling and a rock of offense to both the houses of Israel." Note: I just realized that is both the cornerstone and the capstone. In Habakkuk 3:11, it says that "the sun and the moon stand still in their courses" which is a reference to Joshua 10:12-14. Then the Line of "Joshua" continues into Zechariah such as 3:8 as the "BRANCH" and that is cross referenced with Isaiah 53:2 and Isaiah 11:1.
The best that I can do to convince someone that this isn't Jesus is to say look the words within all of the verses. Jesus would not be a "Mighty God." He's the Son of God. Jesus would not be both born of a Virgin Mother Mary and by the prophetess. Plagues would not go before Him, or pestilence come from behind Him. This is someone who is bringing the plagues, pestilences, and curses that He suffered with him, as a weapon. Jesus does not "furiously stomp the earth or trample down the nations." Another key phrase is “special servant." It could be argued that Jesus is a servant, but I definitely would not call Jesus a "special servant." The last sentence in Habakkuk 3:6 is also interesting. It says, "His ways are everlasting."
There is a psychology to all of this. We so badly don't want a single mortal human to have this much authority, it's scarry, but if we thought that Jesus was both 100% God and 100% Human, than what is the difference? The Messiah begins being 100% human who turns into a "Mighty God." The thing is that when this mortal becomes the Mighty God, will he still be human? Probably not but remember that the Messiah is a very humble person who actually does not like to use his "powers." In some places of argument, he is also called the "weak God" because of this. We could also say that we are tied to this as a choice from 1 Samuel 8. We wanted to be ruled by the authority of Man on earth, but now as we come to the end times, we want to be ruled by that authority of God. It's kind of the point in being that as a humanity, we can't make this choice. So, it was made for us, but again, it's a transition process of us being human to becoming more.
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27) The Messiah would be preceded by a messenger
[Malachi 3:1 is the Scripture being referenced here.]
Of course the version of Marcion to the version of the majority text, in regard to John the Baptist, differ. Within the Gospel of Marcion, it does not say that John the Baptist came before Jesus as a Messenger, it just states how great a prophet John is, but I would not doubt that John was a type of messenger before or for Jesus. In Malachi 4:5, it states that Elijah will proceed the Messenger. The first thing to notice is that Elijah did not proceed Jesus as a type of Messenger. We have the Messenger who is presumed to be the Messiah and then the messenger who proceeds the Messenger as Elijah. So, where the Majority text is saying that John the Baptist is the Messenger to proceed the Messiah, Malachi is stating that the Messiah himself is the Messenger. Of course, this makes sense because another word for 'Angel' is 'Messenger.'
Revelation 22:16, "I, Jesus, have sent my angel [messenger] to testify to you about these things for the churches." "I am the root and the descendant of David, the bright morning star!"/li>
So obviously, Jesus has a Messenger who isn't Himself, and John the Baptist would not be a Messenger for a future Messiah. The above verse only assumes that Jesus is quoting Revelation 22:16(b). It actually makes more sense that it is the Messenger who is stating that He is the son of David. In Malachi 3:5, God of Israel is chastising them for not helping the "resident foreigner." Jesus was a representative of the Jews. The foreigner will be a Gentile with a new spirit. In Malachi 3:2 it says, "2 Who can endure the day of his coming? Who can keep standing when he appears?" Jesus was very "user friendly" people could endure His presence.
If truly Jesus is sent from God the Father, then He belongs to the Father. The entity that is allowing this prophecy to happen is The Lord of Heavens Armies (God of Israel, the Holy One). Jesus is above "the Elect ones." The head of the Elect is the Elect One. Since Jesus isn't a part of the elect ones, He can't be the Elect One, because the Elect One is a part of the elect.


Malachi 3:16, "Then those who respected the Lord spoke to one another, and the Lord took notice. A scroll was prepared before him in which were recorded the names of those who respected the Lord and honored his name. “They will belong to me,” says the Lord of Heaven’s Armies, “in the day when I prepare my own special property."


Jesus's name need not be in the scroll because he was never in danger of not being eternally accepted to heaven. Hence not the need for Him to be on the "scroll" or one of the Elect.


Malachi 4:5, "Pay attention! I’m sending Elijah the prophet to you before the great and dreadful Day of the Lord comes, and he will turn the hearts of fathers to children, and the hearts of children to their fathers. Otherwise, I’ll come, strike the land, and utterly destroy it."


It says here that Elijah is coming before the Lord comes. So this isn't the Messiah messenger, but Elijah is obviously acting as a messenger. In my opinion this has just recently happened. A lot of us don't remember what happened yesterday when it came to social changes, such that the 90's was the "age of optimism." I find that very few people remember this. So about two years ago there was a change in social behavior. Where the children/(the youth) were being "worshipped" above their elders. If I say jobs, then that may spark your memory. Today that isn't as much so. So, Elijah comes to the Messiah in Spirit and causes him to go way out on a limb and make this one of a kind 'declaration' on the internet.
Most of the "putting the youth before their elders" was being caused through advertising and sometimes the movies, but it was always about brainwashing the next generation to be more friendly toward the uncontrolled social changes and taking that control away from the parents. Another thing that might help you to remember this is that parents were "the bad guys." Although there is still some amount of "disrespect" out there, it was quashed significantly. I think that the large companies finally realized that they still needed the "old people" or that they just realized that AI would destroy existance without any help.
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28) The Messiah would be the coming one to whom the scepter belongs
[Genesis 49:10 is the verse that is being referenced here.]


Genesis 49:10, "The scepter will not depart from Judah, nor the ruler’s staff from between his feet, until the one comes, who owns them both, and to him will belong the allegiance of nations."


Again in a world where we are either saying that Jesus is the Messiah or we are saying that the Messiah is another person, this neither proves or disproves one or the other. The Scepter of Judah is saying that the dominion will initially fall to Judah, and we could surmise this to be the one who is born there. Within the Gospel of Marcion, there isn't a nativity of Jesus or a birth. Especially if Mary isn't His Mother, it has no regard to Nazareth being in Judah or vice versa. While the Messiah is Spiritually born in Judah by the Prophetess in Isaiah 8:3.
"The ruler's staff" is just a symbol of Kingship, but we can elaborate again from Revelation 2:26-28,


"I will give authority over the nations to the person who overcomes and continues to do what I’ve commanded to the end, and ‘He will rule them with an iron scepter; shattering them like clay pots.’ ‘Just as I have received authority from my Father, I will also give him the morning star."


The "authority over the nations" is the "ruler's staff" which could also be interpreted as the "rod of iron." Two major things here that prevent Jesus from being this person. The first is that Jesus Himself is the one who is distributing these things to someone who passes a test. Jesus is also quoting a verse taken directly from Psalm 2:9 to quote who these "items" are being given too. Also notice that Jesus is quoting a chapter that is saying that the person who is receiving these items is also a Son of God. Psalm 2:7 says, "you are My Son" (God's) and verse 2:12 states to "Kiss the Son, lest He be angry."
So, Jesus is the one bestowing these gifts of trust and quoting a verse that is a part of a chapter that says that the person who He is favoring is a Son of God. Another thing that gets me is that when we look at scriptures like this, we instantly defend Jesus as being the one and only Son of God, but then when we are not on defense, we will acknowledge that we can be sons of God. The delusion is very strong.
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29) The Messiah would be acclaimed
[Psalm 118:25–29 is the verse being referenced here.]


Psalm 118:27, "The Lord is God, and he has given us light. Bind the festal procession with branches, up to the horns of the altar."


Ezekiel 43:15, "and the altar hearth, four cubits, and from the altar hearth projecting upward, four horns."


If you compare these two verses together, you will see that it's speaking of the future Temple, the one that is not built yet. The ones who are blessing the Messiah are from the people and prophecies of the Messiah mentioned in the Old Testament. Therefore, this is first and foremost a Jewish prophecy that the “Christians” have adopted. Also, this shows the harmonizing perspective of Christians in regard to have their "cake and eating it too." They want to align this with the Messiah in the past, but it directly conflicts with the Messiah being "acclaimed" for Isaiah 53:2-3, but basically it conflicts with all of Isaiah 52 and 53. Isaiah 52 ends with "who has believed our report?" It's like whack-em ball. They raise a point, then they have to expalin that point, then they are back to the original point, etc...
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30) The Messiah would be the seed of the woman
[Genesis 3:15 is being used as a reference here.]
This is actually a very complicated verse; it is surmised as being speaking about the Promised Messiah. Unfortunately, this just goes back to the circular argument though, that Jesus was born as a child or the nativity of Jesus. irregardless, whether true or not, all of us are born of the 'Seed' of a woman. So, it does not prove anything other than that anyone who is born of the 'Seed' of a woman can potentially be the Messiah.


Genesis 3:15, "And I shall place hatred between you and between the woman, and between your seed and between her seed. He will crush your head, and you will bite his heel.


It's saying that there will be a "One" who will be the target of Satan's offenses which is of course implying the test such as what was given in Revelation 2-3. It is also saying that the "One" will suffer from this test, but he will also make Satan suffer during that test. What it does not imply is that it is specifically about Jesus. Of course, the other part of the circular argument is that we have 'seen' Jesus, but we have not seen the Judaic Promised One, therefore inferring it to be Jesus.
Our life spans are not long enough, so we look at everything from the perspective of the present instead of the future. I'm sure there is some psychological reason for this, but it is perhaps just more obvious. I just looked it up, it's called 'Present bias', 'delayed discounting' and 'temporal discounting.' Of course, this was exactly the same thing that Paul did when making his assessment of the apocalypse.
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31) The Messiah would be the descendant of Abraham through whom all nations would be blessed
[Genesis 12:3 is the verse being given here.]


Genesis 12:3, "And I will bless those who bless you, and the one who curses you I will curse, and all the families of the earth shall be blessed in you."


What do we call this in psychology; this is some kind of distraction proof, "a red herring?" It does not imply Jesus as being the Messiah in anyway what so ever. It says that "all of the families of the earth shall be blessed in you." It's basically saying that Abraham is our daddy, but God is our Father. Anything before King David is another time line. This was a period of time where all of humanity was still in control of their potential destiny, but when we chose a King, that became our Messiah and Redeemer.
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32) The Messiah would be lifted up
[Numbers 21:6-9 is the verse given to us.]


Numbers 21:8-9, "The Lord said to Moses, "Make yourself a serpent and put it on a pole, and let whoever is bitten look at it and live. Moses made a copper snake and put it on a pole, and whenever a snake bit a man, he would gaze upon the copper snake and live."


To some degree this makes sense that the chosen 'One" would have to be lifted up after being 'bitten' by God through the serpent. It feels like another type of test. It appears to state that if someone recognizes that they were tested, they will live, but what it says is that if 'anyone' recognizes the test. This could be for a singular person, but it does not appear to be such a case. The Serpent resembles both idol and Satan. Therefore, looking upon the serpent can't be looking upon the Messiah. What it could mean is that Moses is acting as the Messiah by those who are recognizing a test, or that they recognize that they have sinned.
Either way it's still a 'Red Herring' because it does not prove or even imply Jesus to be the Messiah. If we have to rely on the Book of John for this proof, then we would have to assume that it is speaking of the Messiah, but I'm skeptical about the Book, but also it mentions the 'Son of Man' and not Jesus specifically. The Son of Man is a reference to the Messiah while Jesus is not necessarily the same reference, because it's not proven that Jesus is the Son of Man. Right, that is the entire basis of our argument here.
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33) The Messiah would be our Kinsman-Redeemer
[Ruth 4:4-9 is mentioned here.]
The Book of Ruth isn't proven to be factual other than the lineage which it presents. One of the things that make it very interesting though is that it is a story about a 'foreigner' who is a part of Boaz lineage, but making the connection to the son Obed, still leaves another two generations to David. The book appears to be written while King David was in power, thus being the reason for the book ending there. In other words, it's literally a coincidence that it ends with King David. From that we begin making assumptions and tying that to Jesus even though the Branch of Jesse is before David and after Obed. It appears to be much easier to take this 'story' as a 'biography,' but if it didn't actually happen, then we can't say that it is a story for the Messiah.
I know, the entire Christian world wants to make this about the Messiah. Not that it much matters, but the closest person in the story who resembles the Messiah is Ruth. But the Messiah comes from the Branch of Jesse who is two generations down, and if you counted the 'son of David,' it would be three generations down. The story appears to be much more about the non-Jewish person becoming Jewish and then that being a part of the plan for the Jews to be Redeemed. The 'Branch of Jesse" does not have to be Jewish either. The Bible infers a 'foreigner' who comes from the north and the west such as in Isaiah 49:12. Coming from afar implies a foreigner.
But other than that, this is just more fluff to try and make Jesus the Messiah with no real connection to events or people to that purpose. If Ruth is resembling the Messiah and Obed the baby is an analogy of future generations, then it could be pointing to either Jesus or the other Promised Messiah and not proving it to be Jesus either. This also comes with the assumption that Jesus is the Messiah.
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34) The Messiah would be the righteous sufferer
[Psalm 69 is the verse being referenced here.]


Psalm 69:26, "For they persecute those whom you have struck down, and those whom you have wounded they attack still more."


This is one of many verses that show how the Messiah is also the suffering servant, and it also shows that most of Psalm is about the indirect words of the Messiah himself. It's kind of like how or what the Messiah is thinking and sometimes saying to God, but not what he is literally saying. So, yes this is about the Messiah, but again I highly doubt that it is Jesus. Just look at the first three lines of the chapter and try to imagine Jesus being the one saying these words. It's almost the evidence that it isn't Jesus. The only "clue" that it might be Jesus is in verse 21 where it says, "They gave me poison for food, and for my thirst they gave me vinegar to drink." Some might see the word vinegar and go aha, but for one, the vinegar story could have been made up with Jesus being on the cross and for two, it's not meant to be taken literally, but as an analogy.
I think that verse four is really cool though because it actually gives some kind of indication as to how or for what reason the Messiah is suffering, because there isnt' much in the Bible that tells us how or the why. So check out verse four.


Psalm 69:4, "More in number than the hairs of my head are those who hate me without cause; many are those who would destroy me, my enemies who accuse me falsely. What I did not steal, must I now restore?"


First, notice the question mark at the end of the sentence. It shows that the Messiah is somewhat "surprised" that He/She is being tested and somewhat confused by it. That is very interesting, no? More than the number of hairs on his head would imply up to 150,000 people. This number is higher than the number of Pharisees and Sadducees in all of Israel during the time of Jesus. This is like literally mathematical proof that this person isn't Jesus, but in current times, these numbers can be much higher. The next interesting point is that this person is hated without cause.
The people who hated Jesus had a reason to hate him. So how does hating Jesus without cause fit into this, but one would immediately think, how can anyone be hated without a cause? Now were building a profile. This hate has to be while the person is alive. The reason that I say this is because if someone dies on the cross, they will be hated because they will be assumed to be bad. So, what is that? That is the Law. So, this person is hated because he was charged with a crime, but who is still alive. If we are charged with a Felony, that information is available to everyone via public record. So, then it is possible that a person can be hated by everyone without them knowing who this person is or what they did. Public records are on the internet.
"Many are those who would destroy me," this sounds like the people who have authority such as Judges, Police officers, Lawyers, Human Resources, but it could be anyone who has some type of power over this person. "My enemies who would accuse me falsely," sounds like what this person was convicted of was either entirely not true, or the circumstances and consequences didn't meet both the direct and indirect punishment. It could also be that God just forgave this person completely with grace, but he wasn't forgiven by society, or a combination of both. Whatever this person did or didn't do, didn't constitute enough of a crime for God to say that he was guilty.
"What did I steal, must now I restore?" The key word here is "steal." I think that crime is that stealing is a form of definition for all crimes. Such as stealing a life, or stealing food, or stealing innocence. It's a word to define what society thinks was taken from them. "What must I now restore?" This is where we get the word Redeemer. The Messiah is said to be a Redeemer for our sins. He is being the "scapegoat" for a crime that has affected his life greatly. There has to be much more to it than even that. He has to accept the punishment gracefully and accept full guilt without completely understanding it. The logic is simple. Since he is convicted, he can't hide or run from the "crime." So, he must restore confidence in himself.
While he is attempting to do this, society is still trying to hold him back and perpetually punish him, but he has only one direction to go and that is forward. So, he believes in himself even though society believes that he should be self-loathing, and that is why he is hated. He knows that he has been forgiven by God, so he pushes forward, yet the Law wants to hold him back. That is the redemption because he will not allow himself to be judged by others when God has judged him with grace. So, what is that? Well, that is Faith!
This is the type of person who despite being ridiculed and loathed, if was given 10 million bucks and total forgiveness, would venture out to make every single business a non-profit, and the currency would be good deeds. So, there is your mortal being and redeemer who probably won't every own a business, so capitalism is safe for now..
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35) The Messiah would be the great light
[Isaiah 9:1-2 [Hebrew Bible, 8:23–9:1] is being referenced here.]
I would not say that these two verses by themselves are definitive proof either for Jesus or for the Promised Messiah, but it certainly would be one or the other. I personally believe that this is also the Promised Messiah. Jesus is going to be a part of the end times whether he comes back as a human or not, but all thought out the Bible we have the Messiah being the "Head" of the body. The head of the body reaches up to the neck, but it's not the "God Head." Jesus is a part of the God Head; the Messiah is the head of the body. In Isaiah 8:8 we see "...He will reach up to the neck;" So even though the Messiah is the Head of the body, he's reaching up to the neck of the 'God Head.' Obviously during the end times, there is going to be a "great light" that shines so that the Judaic Christians will know that something is happening and they know where to go, but this verse does not state anywhere directly that the Light is Jesus, or the Light is the Messiah or that the Light is both Jesus and the Messiah.
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36) The Messiah would be called a Nazarene
[Isaiah 11:1, Isaiah 53:3 is being referenced here.]
The "evidence" actually comes from Matthew 2:23, and then it attempts to back-peddle to the Old Testament.


Matthew 2:23, "There he made his home in a town called Nazareth, so that what had been spoken through the prophets might be fulfilled, “He will be called a Nazarene.”"


Wouldn't you know that there is not anywhere in the Old Testament that says that prophets predicted this or that saying is quoted. It's, by proof, completely made up. It's self-proof from only that verse. To put an even bigger twist into this farse, the Gospels of Matthew and Luke state that Jesus was born in Bethlehem. Even worse yet, the verse given to us in Isaiah 53:3 has absolutely nothing in common with either Matthew 2 or the word Nazarene. I think they wanted to just get that plug in there not thinking that it could actually backfire on all of their other points. They are reaching so far to prove their point that they are relating that Nazareth was so "trashy" that the suffering servant must have come from there, Whaaaat??? So are all people who come from Muskegon, MI "trashy" and thereby there must be one who will eventually be the Messiah, whaaaat???
There is some kind of strange voodoo psychology going on here. So, if I don't keep up with the Jones, then I will be despised and rejected for driving a 1974 Ford Pinto? He was despised and rejected because he was poor? And we wonder why the "church" is in so much trouble or how they are lost. These are Christians thinking like this.
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37) The Messiah would perform signs of healing
[Isaiah 35:5–6 is the reference given here.]


Isaiah 35:5-6, "Then the eyes of the blind shall be opened, and the ears of the deaf shall be opened; then the lame shall leap like a deer, and the tongue of the speechless sing for joy. For waters shall break forth in the wilderness and streams in the desert;"


The blind being able to see and the deaf being able to hear could very easily and most likely be a prophecy about peoples Spiritual senses and not their literal senses. I also think that the reference to the "lame" is for those who are disadvantaged without it necessarily being physical. Those who are not "speaking" may feel powerless to use their voices and then when their moral is lifted, then their voices are lifted. It is also possible that some of this could be in the literal senses or actions. The main point is this though. Is Isaiah a prophecy for the time of Jesus or is it a prophecy for a future time that has not yet taken place? If one either reads all of Isaiah or all of Chapter 35, the context is for a period of time that has not happened yet.
Yet there is room here for both Jesus and the Messiah. If Jesus performed these miracles and Jesus is a type of Messiah, then we can use this for reference to Him as well, but it appears to be about the Promised Messiah of a future or near future time.
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38) The Messiah would be preceded by a forerunner
[Isaiah 40:3–5 is being referenced here.]
The Christians have this tied to John the Baptist and it is also strange in context here because they already tackled this subject with the point in "27) The Messiah would be preceded by a messenger." So, you can see as we get to the end of the list the "Jews for Jesus" are really reaching. This isn't a "forerunner," it’s the forerunner or the Messiah. God is speaking to the Messiah because his mission begins as a Messenger. This is also where we can cross reference Revelation 22:16 that the "Angel" is the Messenger.
Before we let this subject go, let’s look at another few points. This is solid evidence that much of the New Testament is directly related to the Old Testament and that the New Testament is just an interpretation of the Old Testament. The second point is that there are very loose assumptions and ties being made such that this is John the Baptist. We may go, WOW! That is exactly what John the said in 1:23. When you see references from the New Testament to the Old Testament, look at them from the perspective of being from the Old Testament first, then look at the application of it.
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39) The Messiah would be a light for the nations of the world
[Isaiah 42:1–7 is being referenced here.]
Didn't we just cover this subject in "35) The Messiah would be the great light." Again, they are really reaching for something here. If they were smart, they would have at least mixed this up a little bit instead of putting the least relevant all at the end, but we'll look at it from this particular reference. It most certainly does point to a Messiah who is being presented as a Servant. The only question that remains is that is this Jesus or the Promised Messiah. Again, we have context here to relate to a future period of time.
Yes, the Christians will say that Jesus will fulfill these things when He returns, but we don't know that. It's an assumption just as much of an assumption that Jesus is the only expected Messiah. The only direct bits of evidence of this being the Promised Messiah and not Jesus is that it says, "My Elect One." Again, Christians will argue that Jesus is also of the Elect, but if you look at the Book of Enoch which mentions the Elect One it's in a very different context. My theory is that only mortals can be of the Elect and that the Elect have a 'head' Elect, so, being the Elect One, would also be a mortal.
Then the Christians will say that Jesus is 100% man and 100% God, the apologetic argument never ends. All this argument does is make the entire Bible about Jesus and one would have to wonder how we even fit into that narrative or why God didn't just make a whole bunch of Jesus's instead of us non-100% Gods, but wait doesn't Psalm 82 say, "though are all God's, but you will die like men?" So, if we are 100% God and 100% man, then that makes the argument about Jesus being that, completely irrelevant.
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40) The Messiah would be the object of a murderous plot, but hope lies ahead
[Jeremiah 31:15 is the verse being referenced for this.]
Interestingly here the verse that they referenced has nothing to do with the murderous plot, but of the ultimate restoration of Israel. Even more strange is that not even the New Testament says anything about a murderous plot. You ever watch one of the movies of Batman and the Joker asks Batman why he didn't want to kill him, and the Joker replies, "because you complete me." Where would the bad guys be without the suffering servant. There wouldn't be anyone else to torment. Jeremiah just adds to the narrative that the Messiah would suffer or be tested. Also, this Messiah gets to see, "His vengeance on them." Thus, affirming that the suffering servant does not die a "physical death," lest he die of old age and then return.
I don't know exactly how this works out. My thoughts are that the Promised Messiah begins as a Messenger, dies of old age, and then returns as the Messiah. I don't know for a fact if this is true, but he will eventually see what God does and of course be a part of that process. So, the Jews for Jesus or the Orthodox Church as a whole, is making the point that since Jesus died, then the Messiah must have died, but all throughout the Bible we see this suffering Servant who must live in order to suffer. If he were dead, there would not be any suffering. He most likely would just instantly rise to heaven.
So, again we are not only not proving that the Messiah is Jesus, but we are in a situation where we are proving that Jesus isn't "The Messiah."
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41) Not one of the Messiah's bones would have been broken
[Psalm 34:20, "He protects all of his bones. Not one of them is broken."]


If Jesus were hung on the cross, some of his bones would have to had been broken. There are many small bones in the body. This proves a couple of points. The first is the Book of John mentions that the legs were not broken. This shows a deficient knowledge of anatomy to only be concerned about the legs, and it also implies that the text was forced (created) "that the Scripture should be fulfilled" (John 19:36). The second possibility is that Jesus was never hung on the cross because if Jesus had, per Marcion, descended from heaven, he would only have had a physical body in appearance. He would have been the greatest actor in the world to pretend to be crucified in a non-human body, which I would not have doubted, but then he still would not have had any bones. If this part of the Scripture were forced, it also shows evidence that the entire Book of John is forced upon us by not being inspired by the Holy Spirit. More than likely though, this goes back to the point that the Redeemer's death is not of the physical body. As Paul likes to state the "old flesh" is gone, and he puts on the "new flesh" and he receives a new Spirit, but the body and the soul remained. Well, at least the body remains. References to this new Spirit might be:


Isaiah 11:1-2a, "1 A shoot will grow out of Jesse’s root stock, a bud will sprout from his roots. 2 The Lord’s Spirit will rest on him — a Spirit that gives extraordinary wisdom,"


We can see the transition from a branch growing out of the root of Jesse to him receiving a new Spirit. That's like spiritual transformation. It's a "type" of death but also a renewal. Do you want to see something uber "super" cool? Here is:


Ezekiel 36:25-27, "25 I will sprinkle you with pure water, and you will be clean from all your impurities. I will purify you from all your idols. 26 I will give you a new heart, and I will put a new spirit within you. I will remove the heart of stone from your body and give you a heart of flesh. 27 I will put my Spirit within you; I will take the initiative, and you will obey my statutes and carefully observe my regulations."


So obviously neither I or Apostle Paul will be able to explain it better than God Himself and there it is. "I will put a new spirit within you," old spirit being gone is a type of "death." He will give him a "heart of flesh." That is probably where Paul gets the "old flesh" verses "new flesh" from. He will put HIS!!! Spirit inside of the Anointed one. That is the transition or the appearance of death. Now when you go back to Zechariah 12:10 and read it again, it makes a little bit more sense. That God was pierced, not in a physical way but in a spiritual way. His son was "slain" because he could not bear the burden anymore. He cries out to God for help.


Psalm 28:6-7, "6 The Lord deserves praise, for he has heard my plea for mercy. 7 The Lord strengthens and protects me; I trust in him with all my heart. I am rescued and my heart is full of joy; I will sing to him in gratitude."


Look at verse 7 where it says, "I am rescued"! You might ask, how did I see this or how do I know this? You will have to dig a little deeper into the previous parts of my website which admittingly needs lots of work still, to understand where I'm coming from. Also I wanted to point out the word "sprinkle" in Ezekiel 36:25. Where else have we seen that word... Oh ya its in Isaiah 52:15; which is the verse directly before the "disputed" chapter 53! In regard to the "grieving" and "mourning" of the house of David, Nathan, Levi, and Shimei, all I can think of is this. Israel's control of their destiny was with them. They were still completely in control of their destiny by their choices.
Once the Messiah is "reborn" or spiritually born, the leadership role passes to him as "The King." Hence, the mourning and grieving for what Israel has lost in opportunity for their physical and spiritual choices. It is now in the hands of God and his Anointed one. I don't for 100% sure that this is what Zechariah is saying, but it really does have a logical value. Especially given how the Scriptures are not always completely clear in regard to their meaning. If the first part of Zechariah 12:10 is true (Spiritual death and rebirth), then we have to find out how the second part matches to that (spiritual mourning and grieving). As in:


Ezekiel 36:28, "Then you will live in the land I gave to your fathers; you will be my people, and I will be your God.[w]"


Per the NET translation notes: "[w] Ezekiel 36:28 sn This promise reflects the ancient covenantal ideal (see Exod 6:7)", (NET). So we can see here that there is a major transition happening, hence the mourning and grieving. We are really picking up steam on this, look at Exodus 6:5, ". I have heard the groaning...," this could easily also mean to "crying." We will close with one of MY favorite verses in the Bible. Psalm 56,


"Have mercy on me, God, because men have harassed me. Those who oppress me have fought against me all day long. 2 Those who watch me all day have harassed me, for there are many who fight against me out of conceit. 3 On days when I am afraid, I put my trust in you. 4 In God, whose word I praise, in God I put my trust. I will not fear what mortal man can do to me. 5 All day long people distort what I say; all their schemes against me are for evil purposes. 6 They gather together and hide in ambush. They watch my every step as they lie in wait for my life. 7 Cast them away because of their wickedness. In wrath, God, cast down these people! 8 You have kept count of my wanderings. Put my tears in your bottle—have not you recorded them in your book? 9 My enemies will retreat when I call on you. This has been my experience, because God is with me. 10 In God, whose word I praise, in the Lord, whose word I praise, 11 in God I will put my trust. I will not fear what mortal man can do to me. 12 God, I have taken vows before you; therefore I will offer thanksgiving sacrifices to you. 13 For you have delivered me from death and my feet from stumbling, so that I may walk before God in the light of the living!"


There are so many things or parallels to see here. The "tears in His book being recorded", "those who harass me", "thanksgiving sacrifices", "delivered me from death!", "my feet from stumbling", so that he can "walk in the light of the living!" This clearly is someone who dies a spiritual death and is spiritually reborn but who also walks the earth to give "thanksgiving sacrifices."
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42) The curse on Jeconiah (Coniah)
[Jeremiah 22:30, "This is what the Lord says: ‘Write this man off as childless, a man who does not prosper in his days. None of his descendants will succeed in sitting on the throne of David or ever ruling in Judah again.’”"]
Both Matthew and Luke point to Jesus being the descendant of David, but clearly this cuts off the line of possibility. There are a few apologetics out there that will state that Jesus works around this problem through the virgin birth, but this is even a greater contradiction and an acceptance of not being in the line of David. Also, this apologetics does not solve the issue of Mary's lineage coming from this direction. Somehow, the virgin birth precludes a lineage descent to get around the curse, yet then we still have the obvious issue with lineage.
The "Church" will give these never-ending excuses for their conclusions. What I did find interesting when I was researching this is that King David did not come from the line of King Saul but was appointed King through Samuel. This would give the apologetics the tool to say that Jesus gets around the lineage issue because He was appointed. Well then, the same question, why is the lineage of David so important if it is deemed unnecessary. It's this unwise, illogical circular pattern of excuses. Where the appointment comes into relevance, is in regard to how the Lord of Righteousness will be Chosen.
From this succession from outside of the lineages, we have the concept of people being appointed by God to be Kings. So, setting lineage aside, does this does not allow the Lord of Righteousness to be the ruler of the Throne and covenant of David without being in his bloodline. This just further establishes or proves the extremes of harmonization that Jesus is the only potential person to be this Messiah, even though there are offramps for it being tied to lineage, such as the Branch of Jesse. The branch of Jesse implies a new growth (appointment) by God.
The apologetics will then say that it is still in regard to David's line because it is speaking of David's father Jesse. However, would that not be the lineage of Jesse and not David? At the very least we have one half of that lineage being from Jesse's wife Nitzevet. If we consider Mary to be an important aspect of Jesus's identity, then would we not also include Nitzevet?

Conclusion: This was actually a very fun exercise, and we can see that we don't need to be experts or theologians to make this case that the truth is being stretched to its maximum. In some cases, the Church actually took things of the Bible too literally and then tried to harmonize those literal events into narratives or themes for Jesus to prove that He was the Promised Messiah. In doing that, they overshot their argument and are now proving the exact opposite, if Jesus is not The Messiah, then we must still expect another. What are we now, are we Judaic Christians, not to be confused with Jewish Christians. Are we Essenes or Therapeutae who may have thought that the end times were nearly upon them, as did new Christians. I think that we have a challenge in accepting these things because of a crisis of identity.

Both the Jews and Christians have symbols, churches, and accepted organized religion. Their systems are fully immersed in the world. Could it be that we can't believe this report, because we need an identity? Are we so lost in this world, that God is our only lighthouse? Welcome to my world. As I write these articles and do this research, I find that God is my only Lighthouse, but His presence is so bright that it is the sunrise in the morning. It's the sunset at dusk, and it burns bright all day long when I'm in this world and doing my thing, going to school, working, dreaming, crafting my skills, studying the word, and nobody understands this motivation. I'm both alone, and full of presence. The world does not understand us, and we don't understand the world. It's just you and Him!

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